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esoxlucius

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The term, "flogging a dead horse", could be applied to every thread you two get involved in, lol.

I reckon you two, in real life, actually know each other, and are best buddies, lol.

And for pure entertainment value you have both agreed to disagree with one another on the forum, no matter what the subject, much to everyone else's delight, lol.

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But you two keep on making a mountain out of the White incident and my take on it. Don't think any on this site will be surprised that you guys oppose something i say.
Speaking strictly for myself: I dipped my toe into this bucket of poop with a comment showing that I wholeheartedly agreed with your original assertion regarding drunkenness as an excuse for violence. I was, admittedly, somewhat surprised and actually pleased with the uncharacteristic meeting of minds that occurred, but...then you managed to progress to this:

...he is bigger, stronger and well versed in fighting. He could have done real damage no doubt. That he did not do so is as much a part of the story as the slap itself. There was no fight...
Here we go again; some sinister conspiracy is hinted at, one which carefully manipulates and curates and edits all we see and hear to control public opinion. I am more likely than most to agree that we can't take anything...from any source...completely at face value...but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I watched the video (surprising, as I don't know or care anything about this clown)...twice!...and drew my simpleminded conclusion from what my eyes told me. I don't need to consider the deep ramifications and hidden meanings and intentional errors of omission behind a video of a big guy attempting to beat a small woman. No, sorry, I don't agree that what he didn't do is as important as what he did. That is a ridiculous and overcomplicated assertion. He did what he did...for all to see...in a crowded place full of cell-phone cameras. He is either an idiot, or completely lacking in self-control, or both.

What's this about the phrase "beating a dead horse"? Is that somehow forbidden now?

The term, "flogging a dead horse", could be applied to every thread you two get involved in, lol.

I reckon you two, in real life, actually know each other, and are best buddies, lol.

And for pure entertainment value you have both agreed to disagree with one another on the forum, no matter what the subject, much to everyone else's delight, lol.

Keep up the good work!
Esox...pay attention! Keep up with the conversation! Forcing me to type extra words to explain where we are is tiring, but...

...beating a dead horse is a term referring to the use of fists, clubs, cudgels, bludgeons, bats...tools of real violence. It's a bad thing...so bad, in fact, that it's mere mention or use as a metaphor is apparently frowned upon, according to some sources.

...flogging a dead horse is done entirely with open-handed slaps, and is apparently entirely acceptable, although often blown out of proportion during discussion period in the exercise yard.
 
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Esox...pay attention! Keep up with the conversation! Forcing me to type extra words to explain where we are is tiring, but...

...beating a dead horse is a term referring to the use of fists, clubs, cudgels, bludgeons, bats...tools of real violence. It's a bad thing...so bad, in fact, that it's mere mention or use as a metaphor is apparently frowned upon, according to some sources.

...flogging a dead horse is done entirely with open-handed slaps, and is apparently entirely acceptable, although often blown out of proportion during discussion period in the exercise yard.
Lol. In the name of forum entertainment I don't care what punishment the horse gets!
 
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Lol. In the name of forum entertainment I don't care what punishment the horse gets!
Perhaps...but...I think that what you have left unsaid speaks volumes about the true nature of that horse...:)
 

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Interesting but not enough to keep beating this dead horse.

Edit - I also understand the praise "beating a dead horse" is not supposed to be used any more.
Eh,what's this now?
 

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Are YOU kidding? Why shouldn't she be held accountable for her actions? Because she is a woman? That's all you got? That's pathetic in this day and age.
No one is commending the guy, or calling him a prince. I can't speak for SK but my opinion is I disagree with someone getting on their high horse, trying to billy jack themselves into a situation and only holding men accountable for their actions. Then go on and try to minimize her strike because her hand was open? If he backhanded her, would that be any less of a DB move? No. He did not beat the crap out her, he made the same drunken effort she did. His size and background are also the reasons why she should think twice about hitting him. What if he did go off on her and seriously hurt, killed her. Would you still feel better he knowing he "shouldn't" have done that? No. It would still be a tragedy. But at the end of the day she is the one who took the liberty to strike someone. It's like these dumb kids I see crossing the street. They walk right into the intersection, don't even bother to look to make sure traffic stops. They are perfectly content with knowing traffic is "supposed" to stop. Guess what? Stuff happens. I'm surely not condoning running anyone over, or beating women. But take some accountability.
The real crappy part of this situation is that drunken fist fights look to be acceptable here. Not because it's a man hitting a woman, but because they BOTH can't be civil. How trashy.
His wife of almost 30 yrs, is about 75 pounds lighter, and 6 inches shorter, than Dana. Not to mention the fact that best I can ascertain she has zero experience in the ring, any ring. I never once said that his wife should not be accountable for her actions, nor did I ever suggest that a male should stand by with hands at his side while a female attacks him with a weapon. Or anything even remotely close to either of those scenarios.

Perhaps when/if some you are with the same women for close to 30 yrs, you’ll have a better understanding of this situation.

He is either an idiot, or completely lacking in self-control, or both.
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I guess in this day and age, Sean Connery would be a hero for his past comments about women sometimes needing a good smack? Maybe things really haven’t changed much since when I was a kid?

”I don't think there is anything particularly wrong about hitting a woman, although I don't recommend doing it in the same way that you'd hit a man," he told the publication.


Describing an "openhanded slap" as "justified," Connery also said it could be used "if all other alternatives fail and there has been plenty of warning," adding, "If a woman is a *****, or hysterical, or bloody-minded continually, then I'd do it."
 
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His wife of almost 30 yrs, is about 75 pounds lighter, and 6 inches shorter, than Dana. Not to mention the fact that best I can ascertain she has zero experience in the ring, any ring. I never once said that his wife should not be accountable for her actions, nor did I ever suggest that a male should stand by with hands at his side while a female attacks him with a weapon. Or anything even remotely close to either of those scenarios.

Perhaps when/if some you are with the same women for close to 30 yrs, you’ll have a better understanding of this situation.



Agreed.
Her size and weight have nothing to do with anything. She's a human who should be able to make the same decisions any other human could make. Imo you aren't holding her accountable. You're just interested in calling out Dana because he's a man. My opinion is I don't agree with you and your "oh the humanity" crap you're coming up with.
 

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You can even take the alcohol element out of the equation altogether and there's still a huge problem. Domestic violence is a major problem, and it's not always men who are the instigators.
Gee I wonder why, seems like some people still live by an eye for an eye, or smack (or two) for a smack. Personally I don’t find this narrative funny, or entertaining. Two wrongs seldom make things right. Defending one self against serious violence is one thing, this situation certainly did not call for a counter attack.
 

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I guess in this day and age, Sean Connery would be a hero for his past comments about women sometimes needing a good smack? Maybe things really haven’t changed much since when I was a kid?

”I don't think there is anything particularly wrong about hitting a woman, although I don't recommend doing it in the same way that you'd hit a man," he told the publication.


Describing an "openhanded slap" as "justified," Connery also said it could be used "if all other alternatives fail and there has been plenty of warning," adding, "If a woman is a *****, or hysterical, or bloody-minded continually, then I'd do it."
I don't think of Connery as a hero, but yes I agree with him. I agree just as much as a woman saying sometimes a man just needs a good smack. Big deal. Btw, at how many years did you find it ok to be slapped around by your wife? Or is that possibly why she picked you? Please don't get your panties in a bunch, you know I'm just giving you a hard time..
 
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