One proven way to treat ich/ick

[ChileRelleno]

Moving your fish to another tank would work. The ICH would die within 48-60 hours without a host. Raising temp to 90 would not make a difference.

Actually, it would make a major difference.

The Tomont (2nd life-stage) can take anywhere from several hours to several days to complete it's encysted reproduction stage depending on temp.
The Theront (3rd life-stage) can last as long as 55hrs/2.5days at cooler temps, it too is affected by temp just as the Tomont is.
These phases are affected by temp, cooler=longer/warmer=shorter.
Together these stages can last up to 5-6 days in cooler water...

Well beyond 48-60 hrs/2-2.5 days.
By increasing temp the time needed to guarantee eradication via lack of host could be cut to 2-3days, minimum.

With warmer temps (75'-86'f) the life cycle is dramatically speeded up, at high temps (87'-88')proper reproduction is severly hampered/discontinued and at temps beyond that the protozoa is usually killed outright.
Dosing the tank with moderately high salinity at this time would be very detrimental to the protozoa too.

Heat & Salt, these two combined make a very deadly duo.

 

[ChileRelleno]

would it work to treat all my fish in an empty quarentien tank, and bring the temp in the infected tank up to like 90 for a couple of days? i was thinking this way i could kill every thing in the tank in a couple days while the fish get a few weeks of treatment in the quarentien tank.

does the age of the infected fish affect the tretment i should be doing?

If your fish are tolerant of salt you could dose moderate-high level salinity combined with ICH-Attack (A natural, non-toxic/medicinal remedy) and not have to raise the temp beyond 75'f, this would be enough to speed the lifecycle but not overly stress your cool water species.
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Only if the fish age affects it's ability to handle the treatment, a known geriatric may not handle stress as well and more care should be taken.

 

[ChileRelleno]

will the salt hurt my shrimp?

I do believe they should handle salinity right up to brackish with no problems...
Don't quote me tho, my knowledge of FW shrimp is basic, research it.

 

[Brooklynella]

Actually, it would make a major difference.

The Tomont (2nd life-stage) can take anywhere from several hours to several days to complete it's encysted reproduction stage depending on temp.
The Theront (3rd life-stage) can last as long as 55hrs/2.5days at cooler temps, it too is affected by temp just as the Tomont is.
These phases are affected by temp, cooler=longer/warmer=shorter.
Together these stages can last up to 5-6 days in cooler water...

Well beyond 48-60 hrs/2-2.5 days.
By increasing temp the time needed to guarantee eradication via lack of host could be cut to 2-3days, minimum.

With warmer temps (75'-86'f) the life cycle is dramatically speeded up, at high temps (87'-88')proper reproduction is severly hampered/discontinued and at temps beyond that the protozoa is usually killed outright.
Dosing the tank with moderately high salinity at this time would be very detrimental to the protozoa too.

Heat & Salt, these two combined make a very deadly duo.

What kind of effect would 90 degree temp have on the bacterial bed? I would be afraid to try it as once the fish are added back, all hell may break loose!
80 degrees? Yes. 90 degrees? No way.

 

[ChileRelleno]

What kind of effect would 90 degree temp have on the bacterial bed? I would be afraid to try it as once the fish are added back, all hell may break loose!
80 degrees? Yes. 90 degrees? No way.

90'f, no effect at all.
http://www.bioconlabs.com/nitribactfacts.html

Temperature

The temperature for optimum growth of nitrifying bacteria is between 77-86° F (25-30° C).

Growth rate is decreased by 50% at 64° F (18° C).

Growth rate is decreased by 75% at 46-50° F.

No activity will occur at 39° F (4° C)

Nitrifying bacteria will die at 32° F (0° C).

Nitrifying bacteria will die at 120° F (49° C)

Nitrobacter is less tolerant of low temperatures than Nitrosomonas. In cold water systems, care must be taken to monitor the accumulation of nitrites.

 

[Brooklynella]

90'f, no effect at all.
http://www.bioconlabs.com/nitribactfacts.html

Shut me up.

 

[missyme06]

ok so i just finished buying text books and wont have any money for the next two weeks. but i have lots of doc wellfish salt so i was thinking since i don't have a heater i will just have to treat the whole tank at 68 degrees for 6 to 8 weeks.

i just did a 50% water change while vacuuming my gravel (i figured i might get some of them that way). no salt has been added yet. not worried about my plants dieing, i can replace those.

I'm just afraid of over dosing on accident.

should i be adding a little of salt every day for a week till i get up to the full amount for my tank, or should i just dump it all in there at once (this would shock them wont it?)?

these are my favorite fish. ich sucks.

ho, and what about my filter should i have that on while the salts in there, or should i just take it out and sterilize it??

 

[ChileRelleno]

Predissolve salt in dechlorinated warm water and add over several hours, observe fish for distress-generally manifest as rapid/heavy breathing.
You can buy a cheap swing arm hydrometer and use it to attain desired levels of salinity.
If at anytime your fish exhibit distress simply do a water change.

 

[armatus]

hi guys,

i have 3 baby juruense's with Ick. does anyone of you have any experience with small catfishes with Ick.
thanks in advance

armatus

 

[guppy]

Don't know about this species but most pimlodia cats tolerate it well, at least better than they do any malachite gree/formalin mixture.