although I have the same opinion as knifegill, you got me thinking about adding phosphates/trace elements for the plants. The fish would be putting off all the nitrates your plants will use, but do we have to worry about trace elements/phosphates for these plants? Mine are absolutely fine, but if I already had some leftover KH2P04, and some trace elements should I be considering dosing for these plants, or is it not even worth it? I'm only using them for a filter, but I'd prefer the least amount of decaying plant matter in my tank as possible.