Plant only filtration (why not popular in the hobby???)

kamikaziechameleon

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To answer you question a plant filter would in theory work almost the same as a carbon/bio filter. They both require water changes for various reasons. I don't see why a healthy planted tank even needs filtration(just water circulation) but rather just water changes and the monthly gravel sifting.
 

JamesF

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kamikaziechameleon;5013565; said:
To answer you question a plant filter would in theory work almost the same as a carbon/bio filter. They both require water changes for various reasons. I don't see why a healthy planted tank even needs filtration(just water circulation) but rather just water changes and the monthly gravel sifting.
If you don't run any type of filter, you'll have a fair amount of particulate matter floating around your tank. Plants can't help with that unfortunately.
 

dayak

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this exactly what i did when i was a kid and i am in the process of doing it, so far i have pothoes in my HOB, will find some more..
when i was a kid i never change the water at all and all the fishes were healthy and even breed.
when water has no mineral in it anymore it will simply evaporate and all u got to do is refill thats what i understand.

here its the pic of it so far..
 

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Question ... If I threw some pothos in my new axolotl tank... In a little shower tub caddy type thing ... Do I really need to have water running over the roots or can I just sit them in the caddy and hope the little hob i have is enough water movement?
 

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great job justin! i hve been growing some pothos that is overrunning my vivariums in the HOB on my 125.
try growing this stuff in flourite :eek: :)
 

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roacan;5013517; said:
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He does not do WC, just top up the water and no filter on fresh water tank.
He should do water changes none the less. Welcome to MFK! :welcome:

kamikaziechameleon;5013565; said:
To answer you question a plant filter would in theory work almost the same as a carbon/bio filter. They both require water changes for various reasons. I don't see why a healthy planted tank even needs filtration(just water circulation) but rather just water changes and the monthly gravel sifting.
I am new to planted tanks so this (not being an actual planted tank technically) new territory for me.

JamesF;5013786; said:
If you don't run any type of filter, you'll have a fair amount of particulate matter floating around your tank. Plants can't help with that unfortunately.
Agreed.

dayak;5014088; said:
this exactly what i did when i was a kid and i am in the process of doing it, so far i have pothoes in my HOB, will find some more..
when i was a kid i never change the water at all and all the fishes were healthy and even breed.
when water has no mineral in it anymore it will simply evaporate and all u got to do is refill thats what i understand.

here its the pic of it so far..
Nice. I wonder how long it will take for the roots to completely take over that HOB. Mine made it about 3 weeks. I just left them growing in the water column after it got too big.

muffywrx;5019055; said:
Question ... If I threw some pothos in my new axolotl tank... In a little shower tub caddy type thing ... Do I really need to have water running over the roots or can I just sit them in the caddy and hope the little hob i have is enough water movement?
muffywrx;5019057; said:
(by the way, I got an axolotl because of this thread :) )
Right on Jessica! They are awesome aren't they? I think if you just left the pothos roots dangling in the water you would be fine. I have not tried them in with no circulation yet but assume it would be OK, just less effective, again an assumption.

devder1;5019102; said:
great job justin! i hve been growing some pothos that is overrunning my vivariums in the HOB on my 125.
try growing this stuff in flourite :eek: :)
Really? I have not thought of growing it in floutrite. Is it planted in a pot with flourite or is that your substrate?
 

devder1

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it is a layer of substrate in one of my vivariums, and i have found that roots take off exceptionally well in it, i had to pull out some cuttings the other day, and i just noticed a pretty big difference in roots between pure gravel with sphagnum moss on top and the plants grown with a layer of flourite on top of the regular aquarium gravel :)
 

carsona246

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I just wanted to add to circulation advice, I had pothos just sitting in the middle of my axolotl tank that got very little water flow, and the roots didn't even start growing. The tiny pothos I had in my hob filter however took off in root growth. I think water circulation was the cause, because the pothos in my axolotl tank actually got more light, and probably more nutrients.
 

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Hm .. okay I will have to try both I suppose. Maybe I can build some sort of ramp that feeds into one of those cheapo shower caddys that was mentioned ;) holding a bunch of pothos ... to get the circulation over the roots. We'll see. I have seen pothos growing in just water sitting there, so. I will try it out.

And I have orchids in the back of a couple of my tanks. One is growing pretty well, no shoots yet though just leaves getting bigger. And putting off a .. planty smell. The other was my biggest but I had to rip off the dying leaves before placing it in so now it is tiny.
 
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