Please help identify

[LAQGUY]

Hello I have this Cichlid I do have some ideas what it may be but I want to hear from others as well. So some context to the situation, I got the fish for free at work, we were going to euthanize it because they do not ever sell. They came in an African cichlid shipment and got in an argument with my husbandry tech that it was in fact not a Frontosa. Anyways here we are I saved the unlabeled fish from death, now what is it?

 

[Hybridfish7]

Mayan cichlid, mayaheros urophthalmus, world record length at 20"

 

[LAQGUY]

Mayan cichlid, mayaheros urophthalmus, world record length at 20"

I was also thinking Mayan however the “EYE” black tail dot doesn’t quite resemble Mayan. I thought the dot on the Mayan was more of a vertical oval that passed the median line of the fish. This fish however does not.

 

[Hybridfish7]

Whoops trigger happy, sorry about that... Upon closer inspection looks more like a barred amphilophus... Without any collection info I'd just call it a midevil

 

[LAQGUY]

Whoops trigger happy, sorry about that... Upon closer inspection looks more like a barred amphilophus... Without any collection info I'd just call it a midevil

Midevil ?

 

[newworld]

Def not a uro prob another Amphilophus mix..does vaguely resemble zaliosus

 

[cichlids209]

Midevil ?

It’s what you call a red devil or Midas that doesn’t come from a reputable breeder aka Dan at coa when he was still selling fish or rapps when he sold fish you knew you were getting a true red devil or Midas most are hybrids of the two hence midevil name

 

[LAQGUY]

Def not a uro prob another Amphilophus mix..does vaguely resemble zaliosus

I kinda was thinking even maybe a Amphilophus hogaboomorum

 

[Hybridfish7]

I kinda was thinking even maybe a Amphilophus hogaboomorum

Possible, but like i said without any known "pedigree" you can't really tell most of the Amphilophus apart, especially when certain diagnostic traits are lost in captive breeding. Hogas are already hard enough to come by, and I doubt one would accidentally be in a shipment of african cichlids.

Most of the wild diagnostics among the Amphilophus sp are based on breeding color and head/body proportions, which again can be lost or muddied from hybridization/captive breeding. Dentition could probably be used as a diagnostic but I don't think that's viable for a living fish, nor have I found any keys for the dentition of each species. I highly doubt there would be any difference in dentition between the larger benthic citrinellus types as well.

 

[LAQGUY]

Possible, but like i said without any known "pedigree" you can't really tell most of the Amphilophus apart, especially when certain diagnostic traits are lost in captive breeding. Hogas are already hard enough to come by, and I doubt one would accidentally be in a shipment of african cichlids.

Most of the wild diagnostics among the Amphilophus sp are based on breeding color and head/body proportions, which again can be lost or muddied from hybridization/captive breeding. Dentition could probably be used as a diagnostic but I don't think that's viable for a living fish, nor have I found any keys for the dentition of each species. I highly doubt there would be any difference in dentition between the larger benthic citrinellus types as well.

This is definitely true but it was not one actually it was about 12 I stoped on the 7th in believe then realized this was the biggest one and took it home.