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LAQGUY

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One of the most problematic things associated with IDing any Amphilophus species is....., that up until about 20 years ago, most Nicaraguan lake Amphillophies were just lumped into just 2, Midas and Citrinillus not realizing there were about 10 or more new species IDed between 2002 and 2013.
But Ampihillophines have been in the hobby for more than 100 years,, and during that time, have been unwhittingly and been constantly interbred.
So most aquarium strain LFS Amps are just basically mutts, mutted over and over. (Midevils)
Unless you went to Nicaragua yourself and smuggled them home in a suitcase,
because
And a mutt is a mutt is a mutt, .......no matter how much lipstick you put on it.
Calling one individual by looks a mix of Hoga with (any ) midevel, does not increase its species stature, or its reality of a species.
calling it an amarillo/flaviolus does not make it something its not,
no matter what wishful thinking is congered up.

If you like it, in reality, that's all thaat matters, but don't expect to convince others with only a couple photos and without provenience.

If its that important to you, ,at least spend the $500 to $1000 (?) for a DNA test that in a lab with access to molecular sequencing Ampliophine models.

In 2015 I moved to Panama in order to collect pure the pure cichlid species I wanted, ...........its all about motivation.
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Thank you for your comment, that is quite inspiring. Just to be clear I’m not aiming to convince anyone of any species. Just collected my own research and ID suggestions for others, as well as spoke to two ichthyologists that shared their opinions. One was quite confident in his identification, however, kinda made it clear if he peels he kinda has no idea. I know no one can go by pictures and be %100 accurate and I’m not looking for that. Just hoped I could share this and have an open chat with others and possibly bounce ideas off one another.
 

Hybridfish7

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It’s a great looking Amph but you have just been jumping from species to species with every little color change that your Amph has exhibited. No one is saying not to document any color changes but you keep trying to figure out what species he is, or what he’s mixed with when that’s impossible. It’s a forum for open discussions yes, but you’re just going around in circles and if you’re okay with that so be it. How many times are you gonna keep saying “maybe it’s ___________” ? People will stop engaging if you keep saying the same thing over and over.

To me it looks like you’re trying to avoid calling him a Midevil. I mean you literally said hybrid Hoga, which would be a Midevil lol. You’re just either continuously missing the points being made or ignoring them.
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