red tail /tiger shovel nose hybrid

[nixdon]

hi, i have just bought my self a hybrid catfish ( redtail/ tiger shovelnose) and was wondering if anybody has any additional information regarding this species, it is currently 3.5 inches long and is housed in a 5x2x2 tank along with 2 small oscars , 9 inch pangassis catfish, small perruno, last on the list is 4 fully grown severums

 

[balton777]

A RTC x TSN in a 150g tank? Hope you have something a lot bigger in the works lol.

 

[balton777]

Sorry I just re-read my post and didn't mean to come off as rude. Here's some info posted in the sticky above.​

07-10-2006, 01:36 PM #3 necrocanis
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Tsn x Rtc hybrid
3rd monster catfish
TSN x RTC hybrid
Pseudoplatystoma sp. x Phractocephalus hemioliopterus
Adult length: Estimated: 4-6ft.
Adult weight: Estimated: 45-90lbs.
Size commonly sold in stores: 3-5 inches​

This amazing fish is a hybrid(cross breed between two different species of animal), of the RTC and TSN. From all accounts it was origionally bred for fish farms in South America. Since first production there has been a steady flow of these into the aquarium scene. One thing to note on this fish is that it is slightly less bulky in build than the RTC. The growth rate of this fish is astounding. Hybrids are subject to what is commonly referred to as hybrid vigor. In a sense this means that the fish will grow larger, faster, and be more immune to desiese than either adult fish. I am not exactly sure which parent species has to be female to produce a superior strain, but I do know that one way you get a superior fast growing fish, and the other way you get a flop, stunted sickly fish. So you can be assured if they are bred for food they are the superior strain and thus have the potential to grow enormous! Commonly when lions and tigers are crossed to for a liger the offspring can outweigh either parent by as much as 2 or 3 times. I conservatively put the estimates of this fish somewhere between the adult sizes of both parents, but I have never heard of anyone raising this fish to it's full potential yet! I have one currently at 28" and know of several other memebers with ones close to 30". These are all young fish around 2 years old or less. So only time will tell exactly how big they will get. I would personally go for the minimum tank requirements of the RTC, but don't be suprised if hybrid vigor bites you where it hurts and you end up having to upgrade yet again! So minimum requirements. Footprint should be 4ft. x 10ft., or for pond 8-12ft. dia. these fish are very active, and from my expirience do not spoke very easily. Mine eats from my hand and is able to be peted. Growth rate for a baby is 1 1/2-3 1/2 inches per month, and may go more than that. After 2ft. mine slowed to 1" per month, but at 28" shows no signs of slowing anytime soon! Just to give you an idea, I feed him somewhere between 1-3 lbs. of shrimp per week, and he's nowhere near full grown. I also feed live crayfish, stream caught(quarantine for two weeks first) minnows, and white suckers, hotdogs, beef heart, worms, mussels, and various fruits! The coloration and pattern is amazing on this fish. Again if you can afford the tanks or ponds and have the means get this fish if not go for something smaller! They are territorial, and will eat anything that is smaller than them. I sometimes feed mine 14 inch long suckerfish, and he will eat 2-3 at a time. So please don't keep it with smaller fish. This fish will bring you much enjoyment for years to come. As with most catfish you can hear them grunt when aggitated, even in the water. It sounds like a deep rumble in the water and a week bark outside of water. Do not overfeed as with all fish. These larger catfish will get blockages, and get sick in your water! It's not very fun to do large water changes on the size tank these need so watch what you feed, and don't put anything in your tank that can break or be swallowed! I suggest only large rocks or sand for substrate. Enjoy, but remember I warned you!
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[parker21104]

Along with necrocanis having a large one check anythingfish.com he has four that range from 24" to 40" I bought one a month ago and mine has grown almost three inches in the first month and he's in a 100 gallon for now and then a then in my 240 with my large wallago attu and hopefully by the time he outgrows that I will have my plywood tank built if not he will be going into an indoor pond.

 

[Bgonz]

hi, i have just bought my self a hybrid catfish ( redtail/ tiger shovelnose) and was wondering if anybody has any additional information regarding this species, it is currently 3.5 inches long and is housed in a 5x2x2 tank along with 2 small oscars , 9 inch pangassis catfish, small perruno, last on the list is 4 fully grown severums

Expect at least 15-18" of growth the first year. My guess......... 1.5-2 yrs and he'll be busting at the seems.

He will eat any and all the fish in your tank regardless of their size, 5' is not enough running room to hide for long.


JMO of course...........




bob

 

[catfishlover106]

I agree with what everyone else have said about this hybrid...they may even grow faster than a RTC!!!! =0 so their is that thing....and plus these guys have just the same appetite as any of the other monster catfishes. So what are planning on doing after it or before it out grows your 150 gallon? Are you going to give it away or built a monster tank or pond to keep these guys in?

 

[Bogwoodbruce]

Also the perruno will outgorw that.

 

[freeedom]

what is the biggest size a tsn can get???

 

[proaquatics]

hi, i have just bought my self a hybrid catfish ( redtail/ tiger shovelnose) and was wondering if anybody has any additional information regarding this species, it is currently 3.5 inches long and is housed in a 5x2x2 tank along with 2 small oscars , 9 inch pangassis catfish, small perruno, last on the list is 4 fully grown severums

they are awesome active cats as they grow

just eat a ton of food

 

[parker21104]

what is the biggest size a tsn can get???

i would guess to say 40"+ i have heard of 36" I know my rtcxtsn hybrid is growing faster right now than my rtc.