Rivermuds Test Tank

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Thanks guys, it's going to be a lot of work.. I'm going to have to close it for several days just to clean. Either that or have a cleaning party... might not be a lot of cleaning getting done that way though lol.
 

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Well, now that it's been awhile and my bar adventure has run it's course it's time to update this thread and the build. I've decided to make a plant filter for this tank. The filter will be a refugium for fry and even grow a small crop of harvestable plants. I have not decided on the plants and am unsure which plants are good and which ones have toxins but I'd love someone to chime in with that knowledge. The filter will be built into the stand. I've already went and got a stack of 2x4's to begin the build. I should be able to have pictures of the stand with descriptions of the filtration on wed night, maybe thursday. I chose the plant filter for many reasons; infusoria for fry, works fantastic with low flow, harvestable, and looks great.
 

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I was thinking about the amphibidome, and I think you might run into problems with the exhaust air line. When the dome is low on air, water will go into the exhaust line. When the air builds up, it will force the water in the exhaust line up and out. If you do run an exhaust air line, you will need to route it so escaping water can be recaptured.
 

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Merbeast;3085996; said:
I was thinking about the amphibidome, and I think you might run into problems with the exhaust air line. When the dome is low on air, water will go into the exhaust line. When the air builds up, it will force the water in the exhaust line up and out. If you do run an exhaust air line, you will need to route it so escaping water can be recaptured.

That was previously discussed.

Rivermud said:
An inverted dome would work. If you put the one way vent at the lowest level that you want air in the dome it will only release the air until water hit it. With it's exit high that the water line it would not expel the water but would expel the air as it reached that point. However you may end up with a sort of air lift and slowly push water through the tube with the air. If that did happen, you could simply put the outlet in a place where we'd want to return excess water that came with it.

Just on quick thinking, if you made a nice acrylic box that sat over whatever free standing platform you wated to use, you could feesibly remove it to clean, then recharge with an air line and one way valves. Seems like a very interestng concept. I may try it but I would know know what amphibious critters to use seeing as I also want fish and know jack squat about amphibians. If people have suggestions, it seems like a very interesting idea to try. I don't see the purpose unless you want more water for fish so please give me an idea as to why we'd do it and we'll go from there.

You would also have to anchor the "dome" otherwise it would simply rise and release the air or flip releasing the air and sink. So the structure would also have to anchor the dome. The structure and dome would have to be removable, so the structure would have to have some weight, like a cinder block or something to keep from floating.

Either way I suppose there would have to be a reason for it.. the submerged for deeper water. It could be done though.
 

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how bad is it to just cover the wood with fibreglass and normal resin?

i know you's say it's not 100% waterproof but how will it let water through?
 

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have you had fish in the tank yet?.....i saw you used the Sherman-wilaims product when i looked into it i was told that it was not fish safe because of some type of chemical they put in it
 

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have you had fish in the tank yet?.....i saw you used the Sherman-wilaims product when i looked into it i was told that it was not fish safe because of some type of chemical they put in it
A year late but I might as well answer. This tank has been many things over the years. 1st it was a standard basic central american cichlid tank. That lasted about a year and a half. It was then converted to a low tech planted tank with my own soil substrate. After a year i tore that down and ran it in various arrangements, it's current state is that of a vermiponics tank. So yeah, it has 0 issues with fish.
 

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So I am continuing this test tank and have decided to try something a little different. I am sure the concept is doable however I am unsure as to how to implement it.

Rivermuds Overlfow Geyser Lift

Sounds fancy. If you have followed this thread over the years or are just now reading it, i have plumbed the tank with 2 bulkheads going to a self leveling overflow.

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The system works by having a leveled overflow that is designed to send water to a sump below the tank. I can set it to do 30% water changes as well as roughly 90% or full w/c. The system works great now that I have changed the bulkheads and moved to a larger diameter pipe. However, it does not suit my needs nor is it pushing the boundaries of the hobby in any way. Geyser lifts aren't really all that new either however they are not really part of most home aquaria setups. In the home hobby we are familiar with a similar process, the air lift. The air lift is used in sponge filters as well as undergravel filters as well as a few others. It is limited in that it can only lift water to a short head height before failing. Standard air lifts also do not lift solids. This is where the idea of a geyser lift comes in.

A geyser lift uses the same principals of an air lift with the exception that it uses an air collection chamber that eventually bubbles over (or under as the case really is) a lift pipe entrance. Water is already trapped in that pipe so when a large bubble enters the pipe it immediately displaces that water to the path of least resistance which in the case of a lift is UP. This creates a vacuum like effect thus drawing water in the chamber and pipe and pulling solid matter with it.

What I would like to do is to modify the overflow bulkheads to run to separate geyser chambers to lift water and solids up to a planted aquaponic style growbed above the aquarium. My biggest concern is that with the velocity of travel within the lift i will get shooting spurts that blast the growbed and splatter out. So my original idea is to put a collection chamber area just above the grow bed that will capture the shooting water and vent the air thus allowing a slow surge of water to pour into the bed.

What does everyone think? Do I need to use my mad mspaint skills to illustrate again? lol

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If I could understand this guy... This pump looks fantastic. From what i can tell from the videos he is using and outer chamber with a rubber membrane that works as a diffuser. That shoots air out and pulls/pushes along water lifting it. Is it something to do with the o ring design and the way the bubbles are tied to the walls of the lift that makes it work better?

[video=youtube_share;mfoXFB5Hr34]http://youtu.be/mfoXFB5Hr34[/video]
 
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