I can said same thing about you. You have to poision that lake to see how many bass are found. Then come back and tell me how many bass you found. Fishing isn't the correct way for counting the fish populations.
Snakehead Fishing in New Jersey
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No, that is one of the methods to count the popuations of an area. Of course the poisoning a lake isn't best way but fishing isn't the best methods for count the fish populations.
alright, first of all your getting off topic and just getting angry that others arnt agreeing with you. relax.
second, no reason to bring up minnesota, by the way, people move and dont stay in one state, and people travel to go fishing in different areas.
Third, of course you are seeing a population swing and less bass. A new element(snakehead) was introduced. It will have its effects. a new predator will drop the population of everything else, by how much? who knows, the science hasnt done enough work yet. Since they are established for over 20 years in some areas we can speculate that it isnt going to destroy the ecosystem the way everybody claims they will.
second, no reason to bring up minnesota, by the way, people move and dont stay in one state, and people travel to go fishing in different areas.
Third, of course you are seeing a population swing and less bass. A new element(snakehead) was introduced. It will have its effects. a new predator will drop the population of everything else, by how much? who knows, the science hasnt done enough work yet. Since they are established for over 20 years in some areas we can speculate that it isnt going to destroy the ecosystem the way everybody claims they will.
I'm new to mfk ... I know about snakeheads tho there are a lot in my local waterway I'm 5min from the Potomac river in md ( the northern snakehead capital) I can honestly say the top predator fish in my water is the CATFISH! They eat small , med , and large snakeheads!! My boy fam nets for there family owned restaurant... And they find catfish with large snakeheads , ducks , everything in there Bellys... I'm in school right now for marine biology and I own northern snake heads among other fish from the Potomac .. Yellow perch , white perch , blue gills, bass etc and I can honestly say a lot of people opinion on this fish is very wrong my snakes are both over 24inches they are not this overly aggressive fish as people like to believe they will hit bull minnows hard..but they don't bother the other fish in the tank... People are really uninformed about this fish ... I talked to a few people who heard they were poisonous.. Wtf..as far as the bass since the snakes spawn and have a lot of fry it's true they benefit bass and other fish to an extend they provide food...they are not what people or the media makes them out to be.... I can post videos n pics of all these fish cohabing...idk about other states but to DMV anglers....bass in the Potomac to me is the same as snakeheads neither belong here but snakeheads look and taste better 
Then there are no way that you can guess the fish populations with that kind of water ways. Of course there are no way to say "Largemouth Bass populations are decreasing in that specific spot" This is river system with fish come in and out so it's hard to say that the bass populations are decreasing.
I have to side with MN_Rebel here. I have extensive work in and knowledge of the snakehead populations in the Potomac. We're approaching a decade of known snakehead presence and we're not seeing any unusual fluctuations of populations of LMB or other fish in the region. In the Crofton Pond where the whole snakehead hype started, they killed the entire pond with rotenone to rid the lake of the snakeheads. It worked and that lake has been restocked with the fish which were there pre-snakehead. Clearly, that will not work in any type of tidal region. The population studies for freshwater fish are conducted by electroshocking. A current is run through the water, enough to stun all the fish and allow them to be counted and captured and analyzed. I have been a part of several electroshocking surveys in snakehead rich areas, more LMB than snakeheads in all areas.
The NJ folks are making snap judgements based on one very small area of fishing. I understand the worry and panic, particularly if you're an avid bass fisherman. However, I believe that you are making a proverbial mountain out of a molehill. I understand what you see, but keep in mind what you see is less than 5% of the story. The underwater world is something that you can't just see or make a quick judgement on from fishing or monitoring a small area. I promise that your local authorities are doing their best to gather the necessary data and make the best management decisions for your fisheries. It's not the end of the world and you might as well embrace the snakehead, as it is highly unlikely that they are going anywhere. There are a lot of closed-minded, uneducated arguments here that are being rehashed over and over again.
The bottom line, no matter what you see or think you know, no one in the United States has the adequate data to truly say what the snakeheads are doing to these ecosystems. However, available data (best available science) is leaning toward the snakehead not being the destructive force it was once thought to be.
The NJ folks are making snap judgements based on one very small area of fishing. I understand the worry and panic, particularly if you're an avid bass fisherman. However, I believe that you are making a proverbial mountain out of a molehill. I understand what you see, but keep in mind what you see is less than 5% of the story. The underwater world is something that you can't just see or make a quick judgement on from fishing or monitoring a small area. I promise that your local authorities are doing their best to gather the necessary data and make the best management decisions for your fisheries. It's not the end of the world and you might as well embrace the snakehead, as it is highly unlikely that they are going anywhere. There are a lot of closed-minded, uneducated arguments here that are being rehashed over and over again.
The bottom line, no matter what you see or think you know, no one in the United States has the adequate data to truly say what the snakeheads are doing to these ecosystems. However, available data (best available science) is leaning toward the snakehead not being the destructive force it was once thought to be.
I'm new to mfk ... I know about snakeheads tho there are a lot in my local waterway I'm 5min from the Potomac river in md ( the northern snakehead capital) I can honestly say the top predator fish in my water is the CATFISH! They eat small , med , and large snakeheads!! My boy fam nets for there family owned restaurant... And they find catfish with large snakeheads , ducks , everything in there Bellys... I'm in school right now for marine biology and I own northern snake heads among other fish from the Potomac .. Yellow perch , white perch , blue gills, bass etc and I can honestly say a lot of people opinion on this fish is very wrong my snakes are both over 24inches they are not this overly aggressive fish as people like to believe they will hit bull minnows hard..but they don't bother the other fish in the tank... People are really uninformed about this fish ... I talked to a few people who heard they were poisonous.. Wtf..as far as the bass since the snakes spawn and have a lot of fry it's true they benefit bass and other fish to an extend they provide food...they are not what people or the media makes them out to be.... I can post videos n pics of all these fish cohabing...idk about other states but to DMV anglers....bass in the Potomac to me is the same as snakeheads neither belong here but snakeheads look and taste better
I'm from Maryland too. Be very careful about admitting to having live snakeheads in a tank. That is illegal and I know that USFWS special agents read these forums. You can be in for large fines among other things for having live snakeheads. I'd keep that information to myself or to private messages.
But great point on the Blue Cats. No one wants to talk about how destructive they are, even though they're worse than the snakeheads, but that's for another thread!