Stingrays and high ph levels?

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i used to live in van they add ash to help stabilize ph.but adding a bag of crush coral is a very good idea,but make sure its always fresh or actually doing something,you could let your guard down and the ph will crash very quickly. i dont beleive your tap water will stay at 7 very long though.the only reason its at that i think is because they add the ash and other minerals .your tds is around 15-20 in the lower mainland. in victoria its probably very similar.

Ya it never stays at 7. Thats straight from the tap though. Also yes I place a large filter sock size bag of crushed coral in my sump. It actually helps cuz I had my tank set up for about a year in bc and it stable at 6.5 ever since. Without the coral my tank's ph would crash down to 5.6-5.8. If your asking me what type of GH test kit I use is the API one.
 
ph shock a myth lol i feel sorry for your fish

Calgary, open your mind to the possibility that you don't know everything. Just because lots of people think pH changes kill fish, that doesn't mean it's true. The deaths are either ammonia poisoning caused by ammonium changing to ammonia when pH is increased or rapid change in GH causing osmotic shock. It's not a pH change.

You can feel sorry for my fish all you like but I have no problem adding baking soda to my tanks to increase their pH from 6 to 7 in less than a minute. I have dropped pH in a discus tank (by accident) by over 2 points and simply re-raised the pH and the discus were unharmed and unconcerned - I was running a continuous pH monitor at the time so I know this to be an absolute and incontrovertible fact.
 
Now now children. Lets not stir the pot here lol. I wouldn't say drastic change in PH is a complete myth. Like Calgary said if the fish was stressed or weak it can die from it. But I do believe in what Pete says as alot of fish that get imported from the wild to here I'm sure some of the rivers and lakes in the wild the PH is alot lower then ours. For example Calgary's PH is quite high from the tap and fish adapt to it quite well. I know cuz I use to live there.
 
it takes a ray weeks to adjust to ph discus are worse. they come from very low ph as do discus. they can handle the ph swinging down alot easier because certian parts of the amazon basin has even lower ph. discus come from areas with very acidic water. your comparrison of trout species that naturally live in all types of water from low to high ph to migrating ocean salt water is riduculas. rays and discus are tolerant to what they may adapt to but not all will adapt. try bringing in some your self and you might understand.picking up your already acclimated discus from a petshop is not reliavent in comparrison to moving a trout from a lake with low ph to high ph because they do this naturally all the time. that study was also done in 1926 .also those species of trout can be found in the arctic naturally occuring and survive as far south as mexico.they are so tolerant of anything.they can survive in ponds where theirs very little oxygen and also can naturally be found in moutain streams where oxygen is very rich.

my waters ph is 8.2 sometime higher out of the tap. rays adjust to it yes but they do get shocked and some do die same with other fish.i do not use a gh drop test kit because it doesnt tell you an exact number just a general idea. try using a tds meter or better yet use a electro conductivity meter.tds is very general too not exact uS is a very accurate measure of the hardness of water.i just bought a ec tester recently works great
 
I just tested my Geophagus tank and the PH is at 7.6. I do not believe that the ph will eventually drop back down cuz I had this tank set up with this sand for over 6 months now and it hasn't changed and been stable at 7.6. Also I have no crush coral at all in this tank.
 
your keeping up with your geos water changes good :)

rays produce alot more waste
 
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