I bought them all locally except 1 that I picked up while 4 hours away. I bought 2 from a dealer and they both died but 1 of their deaths was my fault and the other just died on its own. I would definantly buy local if you can so that you can see them otherwise pm me and I can steer you to a couple of dealers at your own risk though or maybe someone else can here.gsmokez;4144055; said:My friend built a 800 Gallon tank last summer which was what got me interested in the whole saltwater thing now, he got a horn shark and a couple of reefs. He said he would help me build a 1000 Gallon this summer and I'm just doing my research so I know what I can stock the tank with safely. By the way Deano, if you don't mind me asking, where do you get your rays from?