Tegu VS Monitor

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I've kept both and prefer varanids in general. Not to say I don't like tegus because I do, but I think monitors are a little more interesting...maybe it's just because there are so many monitor species but only 3 tegu species (not including the blues).
 
varanio;1806937; said:
Hey Kioka, what kind of personality are you looking for in a monitor? Whats the max size youre looking at? Are you looking for a jungle dweller or a drier habitat animal? If we can narrow this down we would be able to make a better recommendation.

Hmm...

Well, I am building a 8' or a 6' long and a 4' or 3' wide base, depending on the species I pick... seeing those are the recommended dimension for a Argentine or Columbian Tegus.

All the animals I seem to like the best, sans the boas, keep me on my toes.

Jungle versus drier eh? The average humidity throughout the house is around 25-45%, but the average humidity in my reptile cages varies depending on the species. :p ;) Haha... just teasing ya bit there.

Now if you means arboreal versus terrestrial... all the animals I seem to have ARE either arboreal or semi-arboreal. Not sure if that trait is attributive to their personality or not.

As far as experience go... had a bit of fun with the V. indicus complex and jobiensis. A friend of mine have a Varanus albigularis albigularis and a Varanus exanthematicus. Not really looking for dog-tame lizard either.

Not allowed to have any of the following:

Bengal Monitor Varanus bengalensis
Perentie Monitor Varanum giganteus
Komodo Dragon Varanus komodoensis
Nile Monitor Varanus niloticus
Crocodile Monitor Varanus salvadorii
Water (Lace) Monitor Varanus salvator
Variegated Monitor Varanus varius

including any new taxon grandfathered from those species since 1997. Example is that Morelia amethystinus is banned, even though the name have been changed to M. amethistina and any derivative of the M. amethystina is illegal including M. nauta which is arguably small enough to be legal, but the grandfather clause make it illegal if that make any sense.

Any more questions?

CTU2fan said:
I've kept both and prefer varanids in general. Not to say I don't like tegus because I do, but I think monitors are a little more interesting...maybe it's just because there are so many monitor species but only 3 tegu species (not including the blues).

Seven recognized species, but 3 are commonly available. The Blue is a hybrid anyway...
 
Lace Monitor is Varanus Varius
Water Monitor is Varanus Salvator

The dimensions you provided sound like they would suit a midsized monitor more, I am partial to the indicus complex because of their personalities, size, colors, and overall appearance. Within this complex there are several species that fill the complex.

V. Jobiensis
V. Indicus
V. Juxindicus
V. Ceraulansis (sp)
V. Yuwonii (sp)
V. Doreanous
V. Finchii
 
Albino blue tegus are really cool:D If you want something unusual why dont you try one of the few vegetarian monitors (if you are able to get one at all:confused: I dont know because all the cool stuff is hard to get here:D)?
 
coura;1808171; said:
Albino blue tegus are really cool:D If you want something unusual why dont you try one of the few vegetarian monitors (if you are able to get one at all:confused: I dont know because all the cool stuff is hard to get here:D)?

The Filipino Vegetarian monitors are very hard to acclimate in the home viviarum due to the fact that they eat native filipino plants, an are now protected by law. Daniel Benett is studying them right now and theyre heavily endangered due to habitat loss, just like other filipino varanus species. These animals also need alot more height than what kioka is posting, he would have to go 8-10 feet tall as these animals are very arboreal much like prasinus and salvadorri.
 
Blue Tegus would be neat, but I don't think they are widespread in Canada yet; a tegu breeder is trying to breed them.

varanio;1807900; said:
Lace Monitor is Varanus Varius
Water Monitor is Varanus Salvator

The dimensions you provided sound like they would suit a midsized monitor more, I am partial to the indicus complex because of their personalities, size, colors, and overall appearance. Within this complex there are several species that fill the complex.

V. Jobiensis
V. Indicus
V. Juxindicus
V. Ceraulansis (sp)
V. Yuwonii (sp)
V. Doreanous
V. Finchii

Yeah... I just copied and pasted the list from the Alberta Wildlife Act of 1997. Damn politicians. ;) Thanks. :) Euprepiosaurus subgenus, eh? Will research the species you mentioned. Although the ones I can see off the top of my head that are obtainable are V. jobiensis, indicus, yuwonoi; not sure what else.

varanio said:
The Filipino Vegetarian monitors are very hard to acclimate in the home viviarum due to the fact that they eat native filipino plants, an are now protected by law. Daniel Benett is studying them right now and theyre heavily endangered due to habitat loss, just like other filipino varanus species. These animals also need alot more height than what kioka is posting, he would have to go 8-10 feet tall as these animals are very arboreal much like prasinus and salvadorri.

Didn't post any height, although 8'-10' tall... think one would have a problem having that fit inside the house! :p Anyone can keep anything as long they got the right room! However I think in order to accommodate a cage that tall, I might as well move to Florida!

Not into anything "unusual" either... seeing how all my favourites are common, yet usually given up because they are too nippy or too stand-offish.
 
Kioka;1808304; said:
Yeah... I just copied and pasted from the Alberta Wildlife Act of 1997. Thanks. :) Will research the species you mentioned.



Didn't post any height, although 8'-10' tall... think one would have a problem having that fit inside the house! :p Anyone can keep anything as long they got the right room! However I think in order to accommodate a cage that tall, I might as well move to Florida!

Not into anything "unusual" either... seeing how all my favourites are common, yet usually given up because they are too nippy or too stand-offish.

Which is why I posted that comment, without knowing the height I didnt recommend any arboreal species.... ;) As far as bitey goes, it depends on your interactions with the monitors. My indicus are not bitey at all.
 
Heh. The bitey and common thing was directed more toward coura just to illustrate that just because it's "unusual," it doesn't means it tickle my fancy. I got my fair share of unusual, but I always return to my basic; although they are much more than say a cornsnake, kingsnake or a spotted python (two of the most popular species of snakes up here at the shows). :p Although I wish I still have my Malagasy Hognosed Snake...

Let see... $8 Gold Skinks (well the pair I got was more than tenfold that price for the pair which I have known for a year previously)... people don't like them because they are too skittish and tend to bite the hand that feed them.... $15 Tokay Gecko... scare the crap out of everyone she met... $50 Coastal Carpet Python, not too bad with handling, although but jumpy. ;) Hence "dog-tame"... if one want a "dog-tame," they might as well just stick with leopard geckos, cornsnakes and ball pythons et cetera. :p

Then there is the boas (about $500 each, heh) and tiger salamander which are calm in themselves.
 
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