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Follow through about pac agreeing on terms about the fight and more on the joint agreement with HBO/Showtime

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=dan-rafael&id=11667&src=desktop


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so can you at least admit there isn't any type of signing and that I wasn't bullcrapping when I said I knew this info already days before?
 

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No, I never once said there was any "fight contract signed". I quoted the headline and article I read "terms signed by manny to fight". I explained they were with his cable company and promotions. Had you done the Google search I brought up you'd had seen everything in most recent was within 14-23 hours. Clearly making the rounds as news. I really don't care to discuss the subject any further. Something caused a stir and started making this a trending subject regardless of if you agree with me or not


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talk about writing novels

I know there's no contract signed. we're passed that already. you claimed he signed some OTHER kind of draft agreement.

I did do a google search and found nothing stating that anything was "signed." which is why I asked you to link it. if I had found something I would've linked it.

even the link you just provided doesn't say anything I already didn't know days before you bumped this thread and it sure doesn't say anything about any signing of anything.

and because i'm nice, I would accept your story about an article title saying something was signed if you can provide that article which you obviously didn't because the article you did provided is dated yesterday
 

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That's because the article had been updated to "signed off on terms" and completely re edited by the time I went back to get it. You keep acting like I have direct access to anyone involved. When all yall were naysayers I was the first on here to say it's a done deal, early 2015, book it, it WILL HAPPEN. All signs are pointing to my prediction being 100% accurate while you've been on the fence and slowly warming up to the idea. I've not once doubted it. Not my fault you got fooled a few years ago and take every bit of news with a grain of salt. I'll talk to you when you're ready to come aboard completely


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I will never truly believe until I get news that they've signed and hold the first presser announcing the fight is on. even til now. until pac's last fight though, I believed it would never happen. after that fight, part of me believed and the more recent news about hbo and showtime meeting I believed more.

the glimmer of hope i'm clinging to right now is that yesterday hbo and showtime people were supposed to meet. these two competitors would not waste that time if both sides of the fighters' did not already agree on all the terms. if not for this meeting, to me, everything is the same old hearsay crap. so you can expect my ticket to board, no doubt about it, but that ain't happening until we get official announcement of the fight contract being signed BY BOTH GUYS. one guy signing and waiting for the other means squat

even if they edited the article, post the link. or are you saying the link you provided is the edited one?

don't start strawmaning this discussion, all I asked for was a link, not expect you to have all inside access to info. a link to this stuff you were claiming which I only want to see a source to. and acknowledge the fact that I knew days before you bumped the thread, since you were calling bs on that. I provided links showing dates. that's what I do when I claim something
 

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Soooo,anyone plan to watch the fight that WILL happen on Saturday night?
 

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No. So the site I regularly frequent ESPN, bleacherreport and sbnation will instant post an article and then edit them with additional information. The same as we can with our own posts. The article I was reading NO LONGER EXISTS in the original form. No different then if you read this and it doesn't get quoted, I edit it, how would you go back and find the original?

Don't believe this happens. Go read an article 5 minutes after a game or fight ends (on any major full time staff website). Then read it again an hour later. Completely different article as more stats and post game comments and additional insight have been added, all under the same exact link as the original post. Any fan of any ball sport can vouch for this


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no i'll accept that. with any discussion or debate, I just want to see valid reasons or legit sources for others' arguments

but hey, stop ignoring the other part. I knew this days before you bumped it


btw, I don't go to those general sports sites for boxing and mma news. they are reliable most of the time but actual mma/boxing sites would be a better bet since the more general sites like espn have their priorities on football, basketball and ball sports
 

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the other thing that could possibly be hindering this fight is hbo/showtime first cooperated when Tyson fought lewis, but it took them like a little over a year to make it happen.

i'm expecting things will be a lot faster since the Tyson/lewis fight was the first of that kind, but I really hope they can do it really soon.

Watson (a guy from haymen boxing, Floyd's guys) is saying he believes it will happen and said it may not even be as soon may 2nd, but he believes it will happen. so who knows, he's got some credibility but also has the rep of bob arum, who many see as a scoundrel.


krich, where can I see the fight? is it on premium cable? ppv?
 
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