The realationship between fish stunning and fish health+suffering

[12 Volt Man]

Fish can definitely become 'stunted' but the ill effects are a myth, especially the BS about how the organs continue to grow inside the fish while the body doesn't. that's pure horseshit. Growth doesn't work that way.

I mean if you think about it, it doesn't make sense. For example, we know the adult size of an Oscar can reach 14 to 15 inches. However, many of them only reach 12 inches, in either the aquarium or in the wild.

Are all these 12 inch oscars Stunted with big organs inside them because they didn't reach 15 inches?

No.

Do they die early because they didn't reach 15 inches?

No.

etc

The whole fish stunted and ill health from it is just internet misinformation that has been spread since 1995.

It was never a thing in the hobby prior to the internet.

 

[cockroach]

I downloaded this book ages ago and have not had the time to sit down and actually go through beyond glancing over topics. The title of the file I downloaded is:
LINK HERE that may allow you to download it as well.
Kristiansen, T. S., Fernö, A., Pavlidis, M. A., & van de Vis, H. (Eds.). (2020). The Welfare of Fish. Springer. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-030-41675-1

Here is ANOTHER LINK to a paper on, "Exposure to Nitrate Increases Susceptibility to Hypoxia in Fish".
Gomez Isaza, D. F., Cramp, R. L., & Franklin, C. E. (2021). Exposure to nitrate increases susceptibility to hypoxia in fish. Physiological and Biochemical Zoology, 94(6), 390–400. https://doi.org/10.1086/713252

 

[skjl47]

We are in a process with the ministry of agriculture here in order to change the law and create a system that will support fish welfare and connect between the fish size, specie, and requairments to the animals welfare law here.

Hello; Sounds like a big brother sort of thing. Trying to force the opinions of a select few onto everyone. In the USA we have a few animal welfare type non- government originations trying to stop one thing or another. The general ideas often seem desirable, such as treat animals decently. Problem is they are known to take things too far. If your proposed animal welfare laws do not go to extremes they may be more acceptable to a larger segment of the community. Sadly I get hints that you will push things a bit too far. Before i offer help it would be good to have you spell out some of the rules you wish to put into law.

Next item is this is likely an ethics quagmire. We have had several go-arounds on this site. Usually over dogs but fish as well. A number of older threads exist here about hobby ethics, fish cruelty, Tank size and stocking densities. A thing is there is a very wide range of opinions on these topics within a community of folks who all essentially favor having decent conditions for their fish.

An example not too long ago was a thread on hobby ethics which resulted in my being put on probation for a while. The thread devolved to the point of being closed down even with my voice silenced. Started out about the ethics of the hobby much as yours has, then went south quickly.