tropical goldfish

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felix453

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I've seen a few people's aquarium pictures with tropical fish like aro's with goldfish. Not feeder goldfish but fancy goldfish such as ryukins, pearlscales, and orandas. I would love to keep a ranchu with some other big fish. I also know that they need higher temperatures than regular goldfish. I also know that they're not that fast, so I'd make sure that they're eating
 
I dont think they're all feeders. Some of these goldies cost $20-$30 so they could be but i didn't think so. the tank i saw was in the tank of the month contest.
 
if the goldfish are too big for the aro, the aro won't touch them!
and those tropical goldfish are just goldfish that born in tropical countries, they can stand the heat but do better in cooler temperature! temperature around 70-80F is best for them like other kind of goldfish!
 
This is one of the biggest myths in the hobby. Goldfish are not coldwater. They are eurythermal, this means that they can do well in a very wide temperature range. Most goldfish are raised on the exact same farms as most of the tropical fish in the hobby. In some cases they actually get sick when they are brought into our air conditioned homes, stores,and wholesalers and kept at room temp.

Goldfish are naturalized in most of the same natural river systems that most of our aquarium fish come from. This means they have established stable (or growing) populations and are now part of the ecosystem. Even their natural range includes tropical countries like Laos and Myanmar. These fish are as tropical as our tropical fish, they just happen to also do well in cooler temps (something the other tropical fish can't handle).

Fancier varieties do well iin a narrower temperature range. So although a long bodied goldfish may thrive in a frozen over pond in the winter that gets to 90F in the summer, fancy goldfish (fantails, orandas, ranchus, etc.) do not have the same tolerance. They are better in the mid to upper 70s and into the low 80s. The fancier the goldfish the less hardy it is on average (fantails can handle more than an orande could, which could handle more than a ranchu could).

Temperature is not the only thing that dictates compatibility though. Whatever you keep together in your tanks needs to be able to thrive together. Aggressive fish, nippers, max size, etc. will all limit what can go with goldfish.

I have kept different types of goldfish with different types of tropical fish and overall they are compatible, but like other tropical fish you still need to use common sense and keep their needs as the top priority (not just everything you like piled in a tank together).
 
What he said. I have kept goldfish with Oscars, Tinfoil Barbs, JDs, Salvinis and many many others.
 
My wifes fancy peralscale looks WAY better in 75-78 vs 65-68 during the winter. her scales were all messed up and there were sores, etc, now, she's a *stunner*!
 
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