Started Bracing the tank, you can see where we notched out the wood in the 2x4 on the top brace to make room for the patch that is holding the plywood together.
950 Plywood/Acrylic Build on Wheels!
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QUOTE="FisheadFrank, post: 7621545, member: 137710"]The wheels will be going on 2x12's that are 50ish inches long. That will distribute the weight to the floor without harming the tiles. Also to ensure that the wheels don't sink into the wood, I willl be adding 1/4" steel on top of the wood at the same dimensions.[/QUOTE]
what I was trying to convey is the pressure of the wheels on the tiles and concrete underneath. unlike a normal tank whose weight is evenly distrusted around the base of the tank, your tank will have all its weight on 9 little points of contact.
if your wheels are 1" wide and let's say the contact patch is 1/2" long. That's .5 sq. inch per wheel. mult. by 9 wheels 4.5 sq. inch. of TOTALLY ground contact. total weight/ area ...
10,000lbs / 4.5 sq. inch. = 2,222 PSI !!!
If you had a perfect tile install it should hold.. but let's hope you have a deep basement slab. When was the house built? My 1914 house had basement concrete that was less than 2" thick.
QUOTE="FisheadFrank, post: 7621545, member: 137710"]The wheels will be going on 2x12's that are 50ish inches long. That will distribute the weight to the floor without harming the tiles. Also to ensure that the wheels don't sink into the wood, I willl be adding 1/4" steel on top of the wood at the same dimensions.[/QUOTE]
what I was trying to convey is the pressure of the wheels on the tiles and concrete underneath. unlike a normal tank whose weight is evenly distrusted around the base of the tank, your tank will have all its weight on 9 little points of contact.
if your wheels are 1" wide and let's say the contact patch is 1/2" long. That's .5 sq. inch per wheel. mult. by 9 wheels 4.5 sq. inch. of TOTALLY ground contact. total weight/ area ...
10,000lbs / 4.5 sq. inch. = 2,222 PSI !!!
If you had a perfect tile install it should hold.. but let's hope you have a deep basement slab. When was the house built? My 1914 house had basement concrete that was less than 2" thick.
yeah, I'm not trying to be a hater or anything, I mean sure aquarium on casters can work. That said, if you have a 950 gallon tank you want a safety factor bigger than 2. The wheels are rated to 2,000... but that could be failure load, and who tested these made in China wheels??
Bottom line, if that tank shifts in anyway, the water is coming out of it. Those bolts on the bottom? LOL. if one of those wheels gIves way those bolts will DEFINATELY shatter the tile.
But as someone said above.. sister joists between those 4x4 or 6x6 that you have the wheels mounted to would be a good idea. There will be quite a bit of rotational force put on this 6x6 when you roll over the seams in the tile.
Bottom line, if that tank shifts in anyway, the water is coming out of it. Those bolts on the bottom? LOL. if one of those wheels gIves way those bolts will DEFINATELY shatter the tile.
But as someone said above.. sister joists between those 4x4 or 6x6 that you have the wheels mounted to would be a good idea. There will be quite a bit of rotational force put on this 6x6 when you roll over the seams in the tile.
ALL of my tanks are on casters and I haven't had any issue. I have a 60 an 80 and a 120. I'm not sure if you can go too much further though.
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Going from 600 800 and 1200 pounds is a hole different ball game then 10000 pounds. I would be concernedthe the twisting you could get while rolling the tank and the fact that once you get the momentum behind the tank with water who knows what will happen lol.
I'm not to sure what the vertical load of 1/4 inch flat bar is but my guess is that it will still bend or flex even when when you have 2200psI per wheel. Also when we build machines at work that come close to that weight we use 7/8 or 1 inch threaded foot pads. Not trying to be a Debbie downer here just pointing things out I see
Ignoring the points others have mentioned, how do you even plan on moving the thing? Yeah it's on wheels, but 10,000 pounds is not going to be an easy push. I'm also assuming the floor would be PERFECTLY level, or the whole thing is going to move over time...
Alot of the things you guys are asking or have concerns about, I have already answered in previous comments.
if your wheels are 1" wide and let's say the contact patch is 1/2" long. That's .5 sq. inch per wheel. mult. by 9 wheels 4.5 sq. inch. of TOTALLY ground contact. total weight/ area ...
10,000lbs / 4.5 sq. inch. = 2,222 PSI !!!
If you had a perfect tile install it should hold.. but let's hope you have a deep basement slab. When was the house built? My 1914 house had basement concrete that was less than 2" thick.[/QUOTE]
Wheels are closer to 2" wide. House was built in the 60's. Cement is 3" thick below.
As I mentioned previously the wheels and bolts will be on 2x12's with 1/4" steel. I have bolts going through the tank to the 6x6's they're not going anywhere. Thank you for you concern though.
Thank you and I will
what I was trying to convey is the pressure of the wheels on the tiles and concrete underneath. unlike a normal tank whose weight is evenly distrusted around the base of the tank, your tank will have all its weight on 9 little points of contact.
if your wheels are 1" wide and let's say the contact patch is 1/2" long. That's .5 sq. inch per wheel. mult. by 9 wheels 4.5 sq. inch. of TOTALLY ground contact. total weight/ area ...
10,000lbs / 4.5 sq. inch. = 2,222 PSI !!!
If you had a perfect tile install it should hold.. but let's hope you have a deep basement slab. When was the house built? My 1914 house had basement concrete that was less than 2" thick.[/QUOTE]
Wheels are closer to 2" wide. House was built in the 60's. Cement is 3" thick below.
There will be 2x12's and 1/4 steel under the wheels. I can only move the tank forward and backward, I will have 3 more 2x12's that I will pull out to lay in front of the ones the tank will be on. If in an emergency I had to move the tank, I would bring out those 3 boards, drain the tank and roll it forward.
Wheels were made in America, they were quite expensive too.
As I mentioned previously the wheels and bolts will be on 2x12's with 1/4" steel. I have bolts going through the tank to the 6x6's they're not going anywhere. Thank you for you concern though.
Bigger tank, bigger casters, its no problem.
Thanks I appreciate in the info. If we were to move the tank there will only be about 12-18inches of water in it. There wont be a lot of momentum from moving it slowly. The leveling 1/2inch bolts/pads are rated at 5000lbs each. I have 3 up front.
Thank you for your concern. As I mentioned before, in an emergency where I would have to move the tank, I would drain the tank down. The whole tank could slowly move over time because it is on wheels. I however will be putting a wheel chock in front of a couple wheels to keep the tank from rolling.
