The Use of Probiotics in Aquaculture

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Maybe I missed this, maybe I dont understand it completely.. But by adding so much good bacteria could it then completely out compete/eat the bad, break down all waste and solids more efficiently, can it then starve itself therefore causing the good bacteria to die off? Could the tank then become dependent upon the addition of these good bacteria being added regularly and not leaving enough bad for good colonies of bacteria to be self sustaining.
 

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SmartStart = same thing but proven for fish tanks rather than septic tanks.

Cobalt = probiotic fish food.

Both available at pet stores.
 

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Maybe I missed this, maybe I dont understand it completely.. But by adding so much good bacteria could it then completely out compete/eat the bad, break down all waste and solids more efficiently, can it then starve itself therefore causing the good bacteria to die off? Could the tank then become dependent upon the addition of these good bacteria being added regularly and not leaving enough bad for good colonies of bacteria to be self sustaining.
In populated and established aquariums, there are always waste products to perpetuate a BB culture. When cycling new aquariums without fish, the bacteria must be fed. An old-school method used to boost BB cultures was to add small amounts of fresh urine or household ammonia to the tank to feed and cycle the BB cultures. All that's really needed to cycle a new tank is the Rid-X and regular feedings of fish food to the tank. The food will break down and provide nutrient for the BB to metabolize. However, this will take longer to cycle the tank than using straight ammonia to boost a new BB culture.
 

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krusty - TLC's StartSmart isn't anything like the septic tank products being discussed in this thread - StartSmart is for cycling new tanks, and according to the manufacturer contains 100% nitrifying bacteria.

As far as fish food that contain probiotics, there are a few out there, and I'm sure there will be more to follow, those products contain the exact same types & strains of bacteria as the septic tank products being discussed here. The main difference being is that the septic tank products can be purchased for a teeny tiny fraction of the cost of ANY type of probiotic found at your LFS. One doesn't have to feed their fish soybean meal laced food in order to add probiotic bacteria to their system.



Shadow - in an established tank what you suggested will never happen. While heterotrophic bacteria will die off when the organic load diminishes, in an established aquarium there will always be a food source present for these bacteria as there will always be organics present. The work-around to those waste eating bacteria that die off is simply to add more product on a weekly basis to keep the numbers up. Nitrifying bacteria (the other "good" bacteria) consume ammonia, so they too will always be present and will not die off from the addition of waste consuming bacteria such as what's found in septic products.
 
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krusty - TLC's StartSmart isn't anything like the septic tank products being discussed in this thread - StartSmart is for cycling new tanks, and according to the manufacturer contains 100% nitrifying bacteria.

As far as fish food that contain probiotics, there are a few out there, and I'm sure there will be more to follow, those products contain the exact same types & strains of bacteria as the septic tank products being discussed here. The main difference being is that the septic tank products can be purchased for a teeny tiny fraction of the cost of ANY type of probiotic found at your LFS. One doesn't have to feed their fish soybean meal laced food in order to add probiotic bacteria to their system.



Shadow - in an established tank what you suggested will never happen. While heterotrophic bacteria will die off when the organic load diminishes, in an established aquarium there will always be a food source present for these bacteria as there will always be organics present. The work-around to those waste eating bacteria that die off is simply to add more product on a weekly basis to keep the numbers up. Nitrifying bacteria (the other "good" bacteria) consume ammonia, so they too will always be present and will not die off from the addition of waste consuming bacteria such as what's found in septic products.
Corrected and understood.
 

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Rid-X? Is this for real? Septic treatment in a fish tank? Can someone give me a link to the product on amazon so I am ordering the right thing? I have amazon up right now with Rid-X, but cant see anywhere that its organic and am a little freaked about adding septic treatment to my tank.
 

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^^^^You can get it at any local store that has a plumbing department, walmart, target, etc: or any hardware store. Just be sure to get the powder version.
 

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^^^^You can get it at any local store that has a plumbing department, walmart, target, etc: or any hardware store. Just be sure to get the powder version.
ok thanks. i'm going to try this for sure.
 

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Regular Rid-X powder. The 1.22lb box was about $10.00 at the grocery store. Let us know what you think after you try it. Post your thoughts and experiance with it.
 
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