Yeah man thats why i was asking the congi questions.... read that aqualong book and its a joke but ca/sa are so widely studied that they cant tell how many times the male farted during matingIt's a shame that ornates, weeksii, congicus (not amymore), and many other wild caughts don't have a known catch locale. That would make it fun. It doesn't mean that it will look any different. Just as how we do it for cichlids and plecos.