Agreed. That, and they act as a sludge/waster reducer in ones tank, which is pretty much the sole purpose in my tanks. Pathogenic bacteria aren't a threat in my set ups as my stock etc never changes, same fish for several years.
The Use of Probiotics in Aquaculture
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Agreed. That, and they act as a sludge/waster reducer in ones tank, which is pretty much the sole purpose in my tanks. Pathogenic bacteria aren't a threat in my set ups as my stock etc never changes, same fish for several years.
I’ve been dosing for a few months now the only ill effect was that my driftwood became constantly covered in the white fuzz after previous months of none. I have since chosen to remove the driftwood and keep the bioclean. This works miracles for water parameters, maintenance, and fish health. I definitely send this thread to every semi-experienced fish keeper i meet
Interesting, I have driftwood in one of my tanks and have never experienced that?
Nor have I. Driftwood all normal, covered in algae in tanks without a pleco.
I have not taken in a new fish in over 4 years, and everyone is pretty healthy.
The live bearers are populating faster than the big fish can eat them.
But I am feeding pellets too. Pellets are easier to catch.
I have not taken in a new fish in over 4 years, and everyone is pretty healthy.
The live bearers are populating faster than the big fish can eat them.
But I am feeding pellets too. Pellets are easier to catch.
That is one of the reasons I add probiotics to my tanks. I need that for all my hillstream loaches, garra, gobies and shrimp to feed on.
I could not get otos to survive in any of my tanks. Dosed probitotics about a week before I got them. They are usually emaciated when the get here. Put them in that tank and they smashed to biofilm that had grown and a few months later they are thriving.
I have noticed after dosing my fish and shrimp increase grazing activity.
Yesterday, Dec 27th, I cleaned the filter media in the tank above. I last cleaned them on July 31st. If my math is correct that's almost 5 months between cleaning, so approx a month longer than the pics above. They could have easily gone another month. Easily. Nothing else in this set up has changed, same water change frequency and amount (85% weekly), same dry food diet (which does contain some probiotic food), same lighting, same water parameters, same fish, maybe a bit bigger now? lol
A weekly dose of Bio-Clean in this tank has been doing what I had initially hoped these types of products would do, years ago when I started this thread.
My water changes have not been reduced, but my filter maintenance certainly has been.
It’s pretty amazing how well this is working. I seem to be having very similar results.
I have actually gone from changing water every 3 or 4 days to changing water once a week.
On my big system I have three 7” filter socks before the stack of biological media, and a big filter sock after.
One filter sock of the 3 is getting cleaned every week, & I rotate them as they start to clog up. The 125 gets a clean filter sock every week. It’s dirty sock goes to the 55, and the 55’s dirty sock goes to the sand filter. The sand filter sock gets washed and stored in the sump until the next time I rotate.
The 4th filter sock (after the “bio-sump”) has not been cleaned or changed since I started putting in the bio-clean. It used to get changed every two weeks. It is amazing. It’s not even close to clogging up.
That system also has three large air lift sponge filters. One in the sump and two in the 125.
They don’t seem to be getting nearly as dirty as they used to.
Since I started this, I haven’t changed the filter floss in my Foyer tank, which is 75 with a 20g sump.
I used to just change the floss in the sump every two weeks. Every two months I would stir the sump all up and flush it out. I haven’t had to do that at all. It’s had the same filter floss for months now. They get a partial water change every week.
That system also has three air-lift sponge filters. They used to be pretty nasty when I squeezed them out. Now I don’t seem to be getting nearly as much goo out of the sponge filters when I rinse them.
The brackish 55 with the 40 gallon breeder sump Is having the same kind of results. The 55 drains through floss into the 40, where all the media is, and there is another floss filter on the return pump to the 55.
I am not having to change the floss at all.
That’s system also has three airlift sponge filters in the sump. They too are staying very clean.
The smaller systems are getting one scoop of bio clean every week. The big system is getting one in the tank and one in the sump. I use a little scoop that came with it. I never bothered to look at what size it is but I’d say it’s about 2 tablespoons.
I have actually gone from changing water every 3 or 4 days to changing water once a week.
On my big system I have three 7” filter socks before the stack of biological media, and a big filter sock after.
One filter sock of the 3 is getting cleaned every week, & I rotate them as they start to clog up. The 125 gets a clean filter sock every week. It’s dirty sock goes to the 55, and the 55’s dirty sock goes to the sand filter. The sand filter sock gets washed and stored in the sump until the next time I rotate.
The 4th filter sock (after the “bio-sump”) has not been cleaned or changed since I started putting in the bio-clean. It used to get changed every two weeks. It is amazing. It’s not even close to clogging up.
That system also has three large air lift sponge filters. One in the sump and two in the 125.
They don’t seem to be getting nearly as dirty as they used to.
Since I started this, I haven’t changed the filter floss in my Foyer tank, which is 75 with a 20g sump.
I used to just change the floss in the sump every two weeks. Every two months I would stir the sump all up and flush it out. I haven’t had to do that at all. It’s had the same filter floss for months now. They get a partial water change every week.
That system also has three air-lift sponge filters. They used to be pretty nasty when I squeezed them out. Now I don’t seem to be getting nearly as much goo out of the sponge filters when I rinse them.
The brackish 55 with the 40 gallon breeder sump Is having the same kind of results. The 55 drains through floss into the 40, where all the media is, and there is another floss filter on the return pump to the 55.
I am not having to change the floss at all.
That’s system also has three airlift sponge filters in the sump. They too are staying very clean.
The smaller systems are getting one scoop of bio clean every week. The big system is getting one in the tank and one in the sump. I use a little scoop that came with it. I never bothered to look at what size it is but I’d say it’s about 2 tablespoons.
And before anyone tries double dosing, or worse, please heed the following advice that I posted previously. I am quite confident that I could double my dose, in MY tanks, with MY fish. I would not recommend this for those who are not confident as to what they are doing, and I would highly recommend reading the following before adding any amount to their tanks.
The last thing I want is another round of something like this. See below. lol
And just for the record, some of my fish, including a group of clown loaches, have been swimming in tanks with various septic products for close to a decade now.
The last thing I want is another round of something like this. See below. lol
And just for the record, some of my fish, including a group of clown loaches, have been swimming in tanks with various septic products for close to a decade now.
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I am aware of a poor ray hobbyist recently that was advised that using RidX as a probiotic in your tank is useful.
IT IS NOT. IT IS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS FOR YOUR RAYS.
He lost $$$thouands of dollars in livestock.
In my opinion more than partly due to adding RidX in his system, coupled with less than ideal water pH and hardness.
There are so many 'unknowns' in it, bacteria and enzymes and chemicals, that to use this crap anywhere near any living creature is inadvisable, but to add it to a system with scaleless fish ( i.e. rays) that are worth so much money is being cheap to the point of INSANITY, and to recommend RidX as a fish system probiotic at all is imo totally reckless with other people's animals. whoever recommends that I would refer you to my avatar.
here is RidX 'fact' sheet...as you'll see...very light on facts.
http://www.rbnainfo.com/MSDS/US/Rid-X-Septic-Treatment-US-English.pdf
read it then tell me you think it is ray safe.
