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I am thinking of doing a brackish water native fish tank, I catch fresh and saltwater species in the same area around here, im thinking Bass, Perch , Sheepshead, and Flounder.

You'll need either a freshwater for the freshwater species or a saltwater for the saltwater, the fish wouldn't be too healthy in brackish.
 

redfish_33

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I was looking into what salinity levels would be needed if it was to work. It would represent the areas that I fish. The coastal marshes in Louisiana and these fish do coexist and thrive in certain areas together. I think it would be nice if it would work.


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It's not permament habitat for bass and perch (if you were talking about yellow perch) as they can only tolerate the salt for awhile then leaves brackish water for freshwater water. They only come in brackish water for baitfish which is plentiful in the marshes.
 

redfish_33

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Yeah thats what im looking into how much salinity they can tolerate, The water is pretty fresh in the areas that I fish and it seems that some of the saltwater species tolerate fresh water better than the fresh water species tolerate salinity. I will probably just go all fresh water fish I think there are some legal issues with redfish.
 

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The freshwater fish can tolerance the salinity BUT not for longer periods. You will better off with all freshwater or all saltwater tank since both types of fish that you mentioned cannot stay in brackish water for longer periods.
 

redfish_33

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The more I look into it I think a Native freshwater would be alot easier due to species, I learned how fast redfish grow while looking up salinity levels, they would need a tank bigger than I could provide very quick. One cool thing about salinity levels is redfish and flounder can survive their entire life in freshwater or very low salinity but cannot spawn in it , if they are living in fresh or brackish water they move to higher salinity to spawn. And for Bass and Bluegill 4 ppt seems to be the end of the "comfort zone" to live in long term but they can tolerate higher for short periods. Crappie do not tolerate salinity very well.
 

Ambervikings91

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i don't thinkyou can have native freshwater fish in salt water for any extended period of time at all, i'm sure that would kill them, thats a abd idea, pur freshwater fish in freshwater
 

redfish_33

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I agree with that, I was trying to create a Native tank to match the natural habitat here. There is some salinity to the freshwater areas here where these fish live and even fishing ponds near the coast have some salinity from the irrigation canals that they use. I was looking up the limits on this to see what would be safe for the fish if I would mix in some saltwater coastal species that live in the same water. There is actually alot of info on it, it was fun to read because I fish alot but im really leanning towards a pure freshwater tank with bluegill crappie ect, I dont need anymore big fish lol
 

redfish_33

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The whole brackish water thing should have been its own post, and I would never suggest anyone mix fish and water conditions without alot of research on it to see what would work. Well anyway you have a great set up with your tank.
 

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So how do you feel about your stocking rate at this point?

This is a point of confusion to me. Some say fewer fish, which conventional wisdom tells us, but I see a lot of talk about "spreading aggression"

I am planning (ie: saving money) for a large aquarium purchase/set up. Probably in the neighborhood of yours, between 100 and 150 gallons. I want to have a variety of different native sunfish, probably 1 specimen from 5-6 species (Bluegill, Shellcracker/redear/whatever, green sunfish, yellow perch, warmouth....). I would also like a black crappie, a black bullhead and a grass pickerel.

These fish should all reach a similar size I believe and I dont want any huge size advantages in my tank. I would love to keep a largemouth more than anything, but Im not prepared to house a fish like that long term. I think these fish on my list could live peacefully together as long as nobody is small enough to be prey and I dont have territory issues.

Several of these fish can be aggressive, but I think having many different species should help that some, rather than a gang of one fish. Im not entirely sure. So I am curious what your outlook would be on your current stocking rate if you werent planning to build a tank big enough to park a car in.
 
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