Best Cichlid Pellet on the Market?

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RD. said:
Agreed. wheat germ, wheat flour, wheat gluten, peas, and rice bran. IMO that's a lot of terrestrial based plant matter for a food designed for tropical fish.


Science has proven that at least with most species of fish studied to date, terrestrial based plant matter can potentially cause health issues, especially if fed in a raw unprocessed state, due to the anti-nutritional matter found in the vast majority of terrestrial based plants. Not a major problem if one is feeding limited quantities, but can cause some serious problems in at least some species of fish when fed at higher levels on a regular basis.


“The presence of endogenous anti-nutritional factors within plant feedstuffs is believed to be the largest single factor limiting their use within compounded animal and fish feeds at high dietary levels. Table 11 summarizes the major groups of anti-nutritional factors present in plant feedstuffs with more specific examples given in Table 12. Although these factors vary in their individual toxicity to fish, a large proportion of them can be destroyed or inactivated by heat treatment processes (Tacon & Jackson, 1985).

Unfortunately toxicological studies have not been performed on the majority of these anti-nutritional factors; on a general basis however their presence in untreated foodstuffs normally results in anorexia, reduced growth and poor feed efficiency when used at high dietary concentrations. For review see NRC (1983), Hendricks & Bailey (1989) and Lovell (1989). “


http://www.fao.org/docrep/003/t0700e/T0700E06.htm


Peas contain phytic acid, tannins, and trypsin inhibitors (anti-nutritional matter) which can potentially cause negative health issues when fed in excess. Check out the list in the link above & be informed, not all plant matter is going to offer a nutrient boost for fish. Just because it's green, doesn't mean that it's a health food for fish.

If one is wanting to increase the amount of plant matter in their fishes diet, my advice has always been to offer fish aquatic based plant matter. The fact that a fish enjoys eating something, doesn't necessarily mean that it's good for them
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Yes I’m aware of this. I feed Hikari, NLS, and omega one all interchangeably. And when I do feed peas I fed them 1-3 times a month so not at excess. Thanks for reiterating though. I believe I have seen this content from you in other threads.
 
Nilsafeller said:
@rd thanks for the information brother! Good to see some science behind it... I always try to shy away from the filler based pellets when it comes to my staple... that's why NLS caught my eye... but if your fish wont wat it then they wont eat it HybridFinatic HybridFinatic
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Yeah I’m trying to get them to accept NLS more but they just don’t like the taste. If I fast them for a couple days they will take it but once I go back to Hikari or Omega one they refuse it...
 
HybridFinatic said:
Yeah I’m trying to get them to accept NLS more but they just don’t like the taste. If I fast them for a couple days they will take it but once I go back to Hikari or Omega one they refuse it...
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Lol I have a jack that wont eat pellets period... same thing I could starve her for a week and I'm sure she'd take them but I'm a sucker and give her what she wants lol
 
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I've checked labels on their other products and looks like the same thing across the board. I used Omega One for years with good results, also NLS. I had it fine tuned to the extent I could tell you which were the better Omega One products, which species looked better (or the same) on which product by which company, etc. etc. It's disappointing that Omega has changed and cheapened their products, in my mind putting their ingredients on par with products I don't use, precisely because those products have too many grain or starch ingredients. One or two wheat ingredients as binders is one thing, five grain/starch/terrestrial plant ingredients doesn't cut if for me.
 
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neutrino said:
I've checked labels on their other products and looks like the same thing across the board. I used Omega One for years with good results, also NLS. I had it fine tuned to the extent I could tell you which were the better Omega One products, which species looked better (or the same) on which product by which company, etc. etc. It's disappointing that Omega has changed and cheapened their products, in my mind putting their ingredients on par with products I don't use, precisely because those products have too many grain or starch ingredients. One or two wheat ingredients as binders is one thing, five grain/starch/terrestrial plant ingredients doesn't cut if for me.
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So would you consider NLS the best then?
 
DawnMichele said:
I think Hikari & Dainichi have some of the BEST Cichlid pellet's. My Oscar Big Boy & JD Rocky LOVE it and do well on it!!!
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I feed my guys alternately with NLS and Hikari. They eat both equally well. I also supplement with live brine shrimp when I can find them, which isn’t very often.
 
11% fat is pretty high. I’ll agree that my fish prefer Omega One over NLS, but they are doing better on NLS. NorthFin is great as well, except that I don’t like the formulas on many of their algae based pellets - NLS appears to be the clear winner there. To me Omega One is the solid #3 though, and often the only decent food from the pet shops, if you don’t want to order online.
 
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