Cold hardy cichlids?

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fwprawn said:
Nature already took care of this for us. They are called Sunfish.

You need to research how evolution works. And just like nature, you would need thousands of years, and up. Good luck.

If this guy is willing to buy whatever you need to keep P Bass in the pond - then have him buy some industrial pond heaters, and an enclosure to cover the pond with.
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exactly. why try and create a potentially disastrous fish when you can keep something that has been adapted to that climate for thousands of years? and is native to that area so there is virtually no negative consequences if they got into a water system.
 
fwprawn said:
Nature already took care of this for us. They are called Sunfish.

You need to research how evolution works. And just like nature, you would need thousands of years, and up. Good luck.

If this guy is willing to buy whatever you need to keep P Bass in the pond - then have him buy some industrial pond heaters, and an enclosure to cover the pond with.
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Do you know how big this pond is?
Its almost, if not an acre. Maybe more. A heating system for that would cost easily about $10000 and that is not worth it. But, if I can I'll just see how the convicts do and if I catch some or see some in a year or two it's working. They are currently in an unheated tank and doing fine. So, they seem to be doing okay. If I find a free pair I'll take them and put them in my pond if I find a cheap pair same thing. If it doesn't work then it was a waste of time and effort. I'll start keeping convicts in cooler and cooler water conditions, then slowly introduce them into my lake

-Andrew
 
Andrew1002 said:
Do you know how big this pond is?
Its almost, if not an acre. Maybe more. A heating system for that would cost easily about $10000 and that is not worth it. But, if I can I'll just see how the convicts do and if I catch some or see some in a year or two it's working. They are currently in an unheated tank and doing fine. So, they seem to be doing okay. If I find a free pair I'll take them and put them in my pond if I find a cheap pair same thing. If it doesn't work then it was a waste of time and effort. I'll start keeping convicts in cooler and cooler water conditions, then slowly introduce them into my lake

-Andrew
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Unheated indoor tank and unheated outdoor pond are two different things. Gradually lowering the temp will only kill them. Watch as you lower the temp they will become less active not move much if at all. At that point their bodies will be shutting down


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Ill not get in to any of the above argument...but what about the fish you will be experimenting on?...so you want a cold water Cichlid ..ok so you will put fish threw cold temps to kill them..over and over and over again, so you can get the fish you want...over decades?...sounds kinda cruel to do just so you can keep some fish in a pond.

just my thoughts.
 
Lol and this whole thread was hypothetical. Of course it's possible evolution happens every day. A lot of it happens because of human intervention. I was just curious as to what other people would say about it. I don't know about you, but I don't have that kind of time to sit and watch cichlids freeze.


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TankDempsey said:
in a sense, yes.

Have you seen what the oscars are doing to the climates where they are not native and can tolerate the temperature?

If that happened then the rest of the country would be at risk, seems like a stupid if not just a bad idea to me.
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Tell me, what are they doing that largemouth bass, cats, rats, and people haven't done already tenfold.
 
Nabbig2 said:
Tell me, what are they doing that largemouth bass, cats, rats, and people haven't done already tenfold.
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Largemouth bass are native and have their one niche in the ecosystem. They have a role and Oscars would make more competition for their food... its simple really.

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Possible, but not going to happen anytime soon. Something like this would take more than just decades. Even with cichlids being fast in the window of time that it takes for them to mature and then breed, something this big would take way too long for you to see results. Even your grandchildren's grandchildren wouldn't live to see this (assuming they continue your mantle). 1000 years is nothing but a blink in evolutionary time. So many things could go wrong, one winter might be colder than the previous... suddenly fish that were used to that can't handle it anymore and all of the fish die off. Bam, it's back to square 1. It's not "impossible" but so highly improbable that you'd just be wasting time and resources.
 
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