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Fahaka Puffer

OscarRobinson;3836278; said:
Some fish do well in bare tanks and others don't. Puffers are ones that do not. They are curious hunters that need visual stimuli. With fish its not always a matter of your personal preference, you need to accomodate the animal you keep. Pufferpunk is just trying to school some of you in something she has been doing longer then some of you have been alive. You don't have to obey her every command but to not listen or even have an opened mind about the advise she gives is just plain ignorant.
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Who's not listening? Who doesn't have an open mind? Who's being ignorant?:screwy: Just because we don't acquiesce or immediately adhere to other's take on what we should do to care for our fish does not mean we don't have an open mind. :screwy:

I've had fahakas in sanded out, planted out and driftwooded large tanks and depending on the fahaka (had several throughout the years) some would still do nothing but stay in one place and eat at feeding time...depends on the fish (never lost a single puffer btw...sold them all). As said before, we all respect Pufferpunk's knowledge but you can't badger, bully, and interrogate someone into doing what you want them to do which is what often seems to happen. I've even seen it resort to name-calling etc. which is in my estimation, just ridiculous. Love puffers or not, they're just another fish. And I love fish but sometimes we take it too far. You provide your info and insights and let the reader take it or leave it. I don't see the point in consistently badgering people (which happens alot). I understand people are passionate about the fish they specialize in, as am I. But at the end of the day, you can't make anyone do anything and there is a such thing as a respectful delivery, which generally dissipates by the third or fourth post if the person does not cede in their original thinking.

Again, Pufferpunk's knowledge is exceptional on puffers obviously. But it does seem a bit hypocritical to tell someone that "We can certainly try..." to replicate a fish's natural environment, when you are doing experiments with the fish that is counter to their natural environment by adding neon colored substrate...gravel no less.

There is a big difference between "convincing" and bullying which tends to teeter on the line of disrespect. You just end up turning more people off, rather than actually encouraging someone to see things your way which may or may not positively alter the contentment of the fish.
 
I'm not sure why you're even getting involved in all this, it's not even your fish. How come you sell off all your fahakas? Are they just merely property to you? Do you sell off your dogs too? My fahaka especially, is like a dog to me, He gets happy when I go up to his tank, fanning his tail & doing a "happy swim", just to get my attention (as do all my puffers). I don't feed him in response to that (he'd be the size of a basketball if I did), he's just genuinely happy to see me or anyone else who visits. Definitely not "just a fish".
 
Pufferpunk;3836564; said:
I'm not sure why you're even getting involved in all this, it's not even your fish. How come you sell off all your fahakas? Are they just merely property to you? Do you sell off your dogs too? My fahaka especially, is like a dog to me, He gets happy when I go up to his tank, fanning his tail & doing a "happy swim", just to get my attention (as do all my puffers). I don't feed him in response to that (he'd be the size of a basketball if I did), he's just genuinely happy to see me or anyone else who visits. Definitely not "just a fish".
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Oh! I'm sorry. It must be your fish!...That's why you and everyone else can respond...but I should not get "involved in all of this". Thanks for clearing that up for me. My bad...Its your world. You're the "Puffer Punk". Oh...and good luck interrogating me with your ridiculous questions. I am not amused. Seems you can do a great deal of dishing...but not so good at taking:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:. And...I am less than interested in your dog-like relationship with your puffers...but thanks for the personal snippet of information.

I'm done.

Sorry for the derail Fahakapuffer20. And again, good luck with your new fish!
 
For someone who has sold every one of their fahakas, I feel your comments are mute.
 
my fahaka at 4 months was 7 inches I feel yours will be stunted as the size of it now should be in its bigger tank. as for decor thats another subject but reminds my self personally of being in a 4x8 cell with nothing to do but bang head against wall. good luck with him tho your going to enjoy this puffer alot.
one reason for substrate >
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How you decorate your tank is one thing, not adding substrate and decor simply because you don't want to clean is just irresponsible. I'm not going to tell you how to keep your fish but I think giving him some things to explore would make him much happier. I'd lose the goldfish they really are bad news for non pescivorous fish or any fish if they are not quarantined before hand. It's odd that he wont eat crabs, mine love them!
 
Ive decided against any substrate, as its kinda a catch 22. Gravel the bioload will be insane, and sand will clog up the filter sock making it overflow.I do not feel this is irresponisble. I have kept several tank, and all have been decorated. I decorated the tanks to my liking, and as a decoration piece to for my home, not because i felt obligated to give the fish activities. Im not sure who decided a happy fish wags its tail, greets you at the top of the tank, and is active. I think we are all in agreement fish all have different personalitys, isnt it possible some large fahakas might just want to lay around an be fed. I know shocking a lazy puffer no way lol. Pufferpunk, I can respect your devotion to these fish, but when you say "ill be here whenever a puffers in trouble" you should realize your part of the problem not the solution. Everyday these fish are takin from there homes and put in cubicles in our houses for our pleasure.Some cubicles may be bigger than others, but none of them are there natural habitat. Instead of lobbying for puffers to get 20 more gallons and some plants, you should be lobbying to stop the capturing of these fish in the first place. I think that is the best thing you can do to help the puffers you love so much. Keep in mind 90% of fishkeepers dont care as much as you, and being as there are thousands of baby fahaka sold around the world at around 3in, and they grow to 10in in just a few months. Im sure there are worst cases for a 10in fahaka to be in then 90 gallon bare tank, much worse.
 
fahakapuffer20;3837260; said:
Ive decided against any substrate, as its kinda a catch 22. Gravel the bioload will be insane, and sand will clog up the filter sock making it overflow.I do not feel this is irresponisble. I have kept several tank, and all have been decorated. I decorated the tanks to my liking, and as a decoration piece to for my home, not because i felt obligated to give the fish activities. Im not sure who decided a happy fish wags its tail, greets you at the top of the tank, and is active. I think we are all in agreement fish all have different personalitys, isnt it possible some large fahakas might just want to lay around an be fed. I know shocking a lazy puffer no way lol. Pufferpunk, I can respect your devotion to these fish, but when you say "ill be here whenever a puffers in trouble" you should realize your part of the problem not the solution. Everyday these fish are takin from there homes and put in cubicles in our houses for our pleasure.Some cubicles may be bigger than others, but none of them are there natural habitat. Instead of lobbying for puffers to get 20 more gallons and some plants, you should be lobbying to stop the capturing of these fish in the first place. I think that is the best thing you can do to help the puffers you love so much. Keep in mind 90% of fishkeepers dont care as much as you, and being as there are thousands of baby fahaka sold around the world at around 3in, and they grow to 10in in just a few months. Im sure there are worst cases for a 10in fahaka to be in then 90 gallon bare tank, much worse.
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IMO a bare cloudy tank with a fish that doesnt look happy or comfortable makes for an eye sore in a home. agreed that there could be far worse conditions this particular fish could be in, but just by looking at the tank it sends the message you got him for his "monster-ness" to show off and not because you like the fish very much and want to learn or make sure that one has a good home. you can definitely tell when a puffer is happy or unhappy. when my GSP gets stressed when i do work on the tank he sits in the upper corner of the tank or in his spot he sleeps, gets all dark and looks like he wants out of there. but when hes fine and im not doing anything to the tank he comes to the front, you can put your finger in the water and he will come up to it and brush his body against it. certain people he will and wont do it with. my one friend who tapped on the glass the first time he saw him (i yelled at him for it) the puffer runs to the back of the tank or hides everytime he comes up. but another friend of mine and my roommates will come to the tank and he will come up to the top of the water for what seems like to say hi to us and ask for food. whether there are worse conditions than what you have or not, that fish still does not look happy. a puffer passing up on a crab??? ppppllllleeeeeaaassseee... i would love to see my GSP attempt to pass up on a crab, stressed out or not, he wants that crab period. its instinct to them to eat a crab or something of the sort, so if yours is passing up on it there probably is something wrong. like it seems to easy to get that food and something must be up.

not flaming anyone so dont get your panties in a bunch :)
 
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