Fleshy's 125g Build

[mos90]

Hey flesh. Can we start a " I'm broke from ordering so much equipment fund". I'll split it with u.

 

[nonstophoops]

Hey flesh. Can we start a " I'm broke from ordering so much equipment fund". I'll split it with u.

I am starting to feel like I could join this fund as well. I will pass the collection plate around.

 

[FLESHY]

Hey flesh. Can we start a " I'm broke from ordering so much equipment fund". I'll split it with u.

Just wait till I upgrade to vortech...then yes.

I am starting to feel like I could join this fund as well. I will pass the collection plate around.

Ha I really dont mind it...I wouldnt be spending my money anywhere else.

House of a true reefer is almost empty...except for that one corner with the blue glow.

 

[nonstophoops]

Just wait till I upgrade to vortech...then yes.



Ha I really dont mind it...I wouldnt be spending my money anywhere else.

House of a true reefer is almost empty...except for that one corner with the blue glow.

Or the blue glow that makes the whole house glow like mine

 

[FLESHY]

Or the blue glow that makes the whole house glow like mine

Yes damn you haha

 

[FLESHY]

Well update.

Purple tang was initially much more aggressive towards the chevron than he had been towards the blue.

Well things have changed. Now purple shows little interest at all in the chevron, and is merciless with the blue.

The chevron came in with a little ich, but it was nothing major, and something I was not concerned about. Since the fish was essentially a surprise, I had no time to set up a QT as had been originally the plan for this fish.

As you also know, this was my first week as a vodka doser. Skimmer was loving it, corals were gaining color (maybe this was a hallucination, you will have this sometimes when you REALLY want something to work well in your tank.)

At any rate...blue has ich...BAD. Purple has a light dusting...and the chevron had a couple spots.

Not sure whether this was because of vodka dosing? Or because of stress from the strange increase in aggression.

Either way, I made the executive decision to pull the fish. I couldnt risk near $1000 worth of stock on some ich.

I had to get out the harlequin tusk anyways, so I did that, and now have two QT tanks, one with the blue and the chevy, and one with the purple.

I have some cupramine in the mail, and plan on re-introducing the tangs in the order chevron, blue, purple...as to avoid having this happen again.

For the meantime, I have stopped dosing vodka.

This is a huge setback, and I am seriously dismayed that for the first time in near ten years I might have a serious case of ich. I feel like a noob fool just saying that.

Updates to come as I either kill, or save fish. Cheers in Wisconsin.

 

[Otherone]

Your doin' some pretty interesting Dr. Frankenstien stuff experimenting with Probiotics. From what I understand of inorganic carbon dosing the results won't really
show til a month, month and a half, and have no ill effects on the fish. All in all it's still the growing of bacteria that's eliminating the phosphates and nitrates.

Me personnally I like the old tried and true method - go slow and allow these colonies to grow in time and as needed. Although I'm way behind you in every aspect of Reefing, it's nice to know their are other options available for future growth within the hobby - Thanks for your documentation.

I'm assuming Ich in a marine enviorment is still Ich - fluxuation in salinty to kill off the offspring, higher temps to speed up the adults metabolism and ultimately their life. Increase in o2 to compenstate for lower levels of dissolved o2 due to higher temps.
Pretty sure you knew all that - best of luck.

 

[FLESHY]

Your doin' some pretty interesting Dr. Frankenstien stuff experimenting with Probiotics. From what I understand of inorganic carbon dosing the results won't really
show til a month, month and a half, and have no ill effects on the fish. All in all it's still the growing of bacteria that's eliminating the phosphates and nitrates.

Me personnally I like the old tried and true method - go slow and allow these colonies to grow in time and as needed. Although I'm way behind you in every aspect of Reefing, it's nice to know their are other options available for future growth within the hobby - Thanks for your documentation.

I'm assuming Ich in a marine enviorment is still Ich - fluxuation in salinty to kill off the offspring, higher temps to speed up the adults metabolism and ultimately their life. Increase in o2 to compenstate for lower levels of dissolved o2 due to higher temps.
Pretty sure you knew all that - best of luck.

The thing that keeps me active in reefing is that there is almost always something else to try. In addition to that, there is almost always a way to tinker with it, or adapt it in a unique way that suits you and your tank.

I am assuming that had h2o testing occurred yesterday that water parameters would have been better than they usually are. It makes sense that if a skimmer is pulling more stuff out, there will be less in the tank to negatively affect h2o quality. Although I have heard the same thing, you wait about a month to see real results.

Although it doesnt directly negatively effect the fish, something definitely changed in my tank. There was no reason for perfectly healthy fish to come down violently with ich in that short of a time period. I have never in almost 9 years of reefing seen anything like this.

You dont know what bacteria you are promoting, and an increased count in the water in my mind could definitely stress a fish.

I also noticed that after dosing vodka that my gravel siphon water was coming out black instead of the usual brown. Different stuff living down in there.

To be entirely honest, I am pretty much an old school reefer as well. Slow and steady wins the race with most of my colonies, but I am looking into doing kalk at a later period, like once I finally start adding corals.

Salinity was dropped in my DT to attempt to kill off any young that are just hatching now to avoid infecting any other fish.

All fish in QT are swimming around as of this morning, and I have cupramine in the mail along with a copper test kit.

Salinity in QT is 1.019 to 1.020 and temperature I aimed for (unconfirmed) was low 80's.

 

[nonstophoops]

The thing that keeps me active in reefing is that there is almost always something else to try. In addition to that, there is almost always a way to tinker with it, or adapt it in a unique way that suits you and your tank.

I am assuming that had h2o testing occurred yesterday that water parameters would have been better than they usually are. It makes sense that if a skimmer is pulling more stuff out, there will be less in the tank to negatively affect h2o quality. Although I have heard the same thing, you wait about a month to see real results.

Although it doesnt directly negatively effect the fish, something definitely changed in my tank. There was no reason for perfectly healthy fish to come down violently with ich in that short of a time period. I have never in almost 9 years of reefing seen anything like this.

You dont know what bacteria you are promoting, and an increased count in the water in my mind could definitely stress a fish.

I also noticed that after dosing vodka that my gravel siphon water was coming out black instead of the usual brown. Different stuff living down in there.

To be entirely honest, I am pretty much an old school reefer as well. Slow and steady wins the race with most of my colonies, but I am looking into doing kalk at a later period, like once I finally start adding corals.

Salinity was dropped in my DT to attempt to kill off any young that are just hatching now to avoid infecting any other fish.

All fish in QT are swimming around as of this morning, and I have cupramine in the mail along with a copper test kit.

Salinity in QT is 1.019 to 1.020 and temperature I aimed for (unconfirmed) was low 80's.

How far did you drop the Salinity in the DT? Careful there, your corals will be maleffected by the lower salinity before it will start to kill off any ich.

 

[mos90]

ive read a lot about marine ich lately. hyposaltinity can be effective in a quar tank but not recommended in your main. i still believe slightly higher temps, cleaner shrimp and a uv is the most "natural" way to fight it. im only a fan of meds in a q/tank.

i will knock on wood that i have not had an outbreak of ich yet, salt or fresh, but i do run a uv on all my tanks. i dont think its a coincidence..