Honduran red points

[Zajoftheuniverse]

There are no pure platinum HRPs on the market anymore, all will grow big and be as aggressive as domestic convicts. The last ones were sold by TUIC, and I haven't seen them for sale since around 2019. I believe most of the ones on the market today are honduran red points bred to pink convicts, because the "pink" gene in normal convicts is the same gene that makes HRPs platinum, and can be bred into HRPs to produce "platinum" fish. Ken Davis claims his are pure, but they are too big and bulky for me to believe him. I however, have a group I won at an auction from Rusty Wessel at his house last year, so pure platinums will be back on the market very soon

let me know if you ever have some of Rusty's HRP or Platinum HRP available, I'll be interested in some. I've been searching for pure HRP for a long LONG time now, ordered HRP from almost all the source you mentioned above and it had literally drove me crazy. I've given up searching many moons ago (not quite since I found this forum ) then saw you mentioned you have Rusty wessel HRP! this is exciting news. Never knew he still have/bred HRP.

 

[Hybridfish7]

let me know if you ever have some of Rusty's HRP or Platinum HRP available, I'll be interested in some. I've been searching for pure HRP for a long LONG time now, ordered HRP from almost all the source you mentioned above and it had literally drove me crazy. I've given up searching many moons ago (not quite since I found this forum ) then saw you mentioned you have Rusty wessel HRP! this is exciting news. Never knew he still have/bred HRP.

Kevin (tuic), Joe Middleton (now wetspot), bioaquatix, and Chris Butcher (on Aquabid) all breed pure Honduran red points, so if you have any of those you're good. They are all descended from the same group, as HRPs were only really collected like once or twice by Rusty. I currently have fry available from a Kevin male and bioaquatix female.

Rusty has been keeping his colony going since he collected them, he had like 4 or 5 tanks of them at his fish house when I went to visit. Every once in awhile he'll auction off a group of juveniles at an ACA meeting/convention (where I got mine).

Unfortunately I will likely not have pure blue fry from Rusty available, as the group I got ended up being all males (I think). I originally intended on crossing all of the lines anyway. I intend on keeping all of my males as well. You may be in luck with the platinums however, as I got lucky with two pairs out of my group of four, and they have just reached breeding age/size.

 

[Zajoftheuniverse]

Where'd you get your line? The wetspot male isn't mine, and is technically the nephew of my female. I also lost that female two years ago, but got more of that line last week.

I've been breeding my line for awhile now, I would not claim my line is pure but all the HRP I used for my line have claim their HRP is from the Rio Danli. so who knows

 

[Hybridfish7]

I've been breeding my line for awhile now, I would not claim my line is pure but all the HRP I used for my line have claim their HRP is from the Rio Danli. so who knows

Who did you get them from?

 

[Zajoftheuniverse]

Kevin (tuic), Joe Middleton (now wetspot), bioaquatix, and Chris Butcher (on Aquabid) all breed pure Honduran red points, so if you have any of those you're good. They are all descended from the same group, as HRPs were only really collected like once or twice by Rusty. I currently have fry available from a Kevin male and bioaquatix female.

Rusty has been keeping his colony going since he collected them, he had like 4 or 5 tanks of them at his fish house when I went to visit. Every once in awhile he'll auction off a group of juveniles at an ACA meeting/convention (where I got mine).

Unfortunately I will likely not have pure blue fry from Rusty available, as the group I got ended up being all males (I think). I originally intended on crossing all of the lines anyway. I intend on keeping all of my males as well. You may be in luck with the platinums however, as I got lucky with two pairs out of my group of four, and they have just reached breeding age/size.

awesome, well I hope you the best with breeding them. please post update in the future, would love to see them. I'm already glad there are HRP fanatic out there too.

 

[Zajoftheuniverse]

Who did you get them from?

Jeff rapps, wetspot, and a few other people I found on the internet(don't know their name.) I've been thinking of trying bioaquatix HRP line next. very picky of what goes in my genetic and of course the goal is trying to get the bluest of the blue while maintaining the HRP shape.

here's one of my old female. seem like after having her offspring none of them look as good as she was. oh well one like her will pop out eventually again

 

[Hybridfish7]

Do you still have any of the pure Jeff Rapps ones? I've been looking around for those but thought they were long gone.

 

[Zajoftheuniverse]

Do you still have any of the pure Jeff Rapps ones? I've been looking around for those but thought they were long gone.

Jeff sent me a pair when he was still was the owner of Tangled up in cichlid. the HRP he sent me should be the same one the new owner Kevin currently carry. darker fins, bold heavy strips, has a lot of black, similar to your stock from TUIC. I believe Jeff himself collected his line from the wild which would explain the difference compare to the HRP I'm used to seeing. over all nice blue fish when breeding, unfortunately the pair he sent me couldn't have a successful batch of fries. after several attempts of breeding (naturally, separate dad, separate mom, separate both) the fries would continue to die before free swimming. I concluded this is due to inbreeding - weak fries. after the many fail breedings I have decided to order HRP from other source and bred it to Jeff's HRP to see what will happen, finally had successful fries.

 

[Hybridfish7]

Jeff sent me a pair when he was still was the owner of Tangled up in cichlid. the HRP he sent me should be the same one the new owner Kevin currently carry. darker fins, bold heavy strips, has a lot of black, similar to your stock from TUIC. I believe Jeff himself collected his line from the wild which would explain the difference compare to the HRP I'm used to seeing. over all nice blue fish when breeding, unfortunately the pair he sent me couldn't have a successful batch of fries. after several attempts of breeding (naturally, separate dad, separate mom, separate both) the fries would continue to die before free swimming. I concluded this is due to inbreeding - weak fries. after the many fail breedings I have decided to order HRP from other source and bred it to Jeff's HRP to see what will happen, finally had successful fries.

Kevin's bloodline is descended from a pair he was given in the early 2000s. I know they're all the same fish, but it's the different bloodlines bred by everyone who received the first few (original) batches of offspring that I'm after.

In recent news on that note, I've been able to get my hands on the wetspot line again. I notice they are very pale now, so I assume they'll take on more of the iridescence as they age, as opposed to the darker blue I see in other bloodlines. I've held back 8 fry (meant to hold back 9 but accidently netted and sold one of the ones I meant to hold on to). I managed to successfully sell off everything else, though.

Same pair spawned again however, and while I will say this batch is developing pretty slowly (as they did spawn in the middle of winter and the tank is room temp), I can already see some crazy patterns coming in. I just need to build up more hardscape in the tank to get more pairs to form.

 

[Hybridfish7]

Female from Chris Butcher's line: