I Got My Freshwater Bumble Bee Grouper!!!

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ultimatejay;732589; said:
Here you go again. All I asked for was a yes or no answer. You wrote two paragraphs of stuff and still no answer.

I've been in the hobby for over 20 years and in those 20 years have never seen a freshwater BB grouper. All of a sudden they pop up a couple of years ago. Oh, they found a new species of freshwater Lancelotus. It's all crap. What happened is that someone got creative and acclimated some groupers to freshwater to make a quick sell and make some money. I'll bet my house these groupers are coming from one supplier. BB GROUPER ARE NOT A FRESHWATER SPECIES. And if there are people out there selling them as a freshwater species then they are fraugulent.

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20 years, well there are many fish you haven't seen in 20 years. Like when you first stepped into my store, you said you had a Korean perch, siniperca scherzeri, do you still think the same, that you had one 10 years ago or whenever?

Your lose tongue, which is getting you in trouble, inability to read and reply courteously will lead you in trouble. You going to sign over your house to me now? I know of so many breeders of this fish, from different countries.
 
fugupuff;733372; said:
Jarret, I've never discredited you in any way or form, but many of your comments were aimed towards my business practices. Since you keep saying that my fish keeping experiences are just schemes, I'm going to have to defend my character.

Please read carefully, take time to digest the information before making accusations.
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Wes, read all my posts. I have never once discredited you or called your name out. I talked to you face to face about this fish when it first came out and you told me honestly that you didn't know for sure how long this fish would live in freshwater as it was a "New species" found. That's why I didn't fork over the big bucks. You have never said it was a pure freshwater species yourself and really weren't sure of how long it would live in freshwater. So am I calling you out? NO. I am just trying to give honest info out there for people who are interested in keeping this fish. And you being a very experienced keeper who no doubt knows more about fish than I or most, would have the answer so many people are wondering about. Hince, back to the yes or no question. Still waiting.
 
ultimatejay;733357; said:
I'm sure bettas could go in saltwater too if acclimated slow enough. How long it would live is another story that I dont' care about. I was refering to gars. They have a different system than other fish and can live in just about any water conditions. Besides I'm not questioning the fish you mentioned above. We are talking about one fish here- BB Groupers. Why do you change the subject? Also, this picture above is totally photo shopped- common.
Also, you still haven't answered my yes or no question. This is like the 6th time you dodged it. I'm going to ask it one more time Genious! Is the BB grouper a total freshwater species that can live in freshwater with no salt added it's entire life? I can answer it for you but I'd like for you to tell everyone else out there.
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1. i want to see the betta
2. oh really? is that scientifically documented? what kind of system is it? and you're sure its not found in groupers? or the labirynth breathing makes it easier?
3. yeah, i heard its a common practice to photo shop, putting salt water fish with fresh. and use live webcams for same purpose, and even have universities doing research on the subject, i suppose is fraudulent too...oh and the albino arowanas are photo shopped too probably, or you've seen those personally?
4. I've said I've added salt to my tank, and the amount of it, and so have everyone else. I'm not on a crusade to persuade anyone that they are a pure freshwater species.
 
fugupuff;733390; said:
reply to all the sentences in bold: starting from the first.

20 years, well there are many fish you haven't seen in 20 years. Like when you first stepped into my store, you said you had a Korean perch, siniperca scherzeri, do you still think the same, that you had one 10 years ago or whenever?

Your lose tongue, which is getting you in trouble, inability to read and reply courteously will lead you in trouble. You going to sign over your house to me now? I know of so many breeders of this fish, from different countries.
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And yes, I do believe I had the Korean perch and I have pictures that I showed you. Do you not remember? I also have friends who have had the fish too over 10 years ago that probably have pics too.
 
ultimatejay;733411; said:
And yes, I do believe I had the Korean perch and I have pictures that I showed you. Do you not remember? I also have friends who have had the fish too over 10 years ago that probably have pics too.
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i'll bet money, but not my house that you didn't have it nor did your friends. the picture you showed me was blurry at best. most likely siniperca chuatsi, which is much more common.
 
ultimatejay;733402; said:
Wes, read all my posts. I have never once discredited you or called your name out. I talked to you face to face about this fish when it first came out and you told me honestly that you didn't know for sure how long this fish would live in freshwater as it was a "New species" found. That's why I didn't fork over the big bucks. You have never said it was a pure freshwater species yourself and really weren't sure of how long it would live in freshwater. So am I calling you out? NO. I am just trying to give honest info out there for people who are interested in keeping this fish. And you being a very experienced keeper who no doubt knows more about fish than I or most, would have the answer so many people are wondering about. Hince, back to the yes or no question. Still waiting.
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all the bbg in this country sold in fresh/brackish conditions were from me, so are the ones posted originally in this thread, so your comments on fraudulent, quick buck, were indirectly, yet directly pointed at me.
 
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