Is your tank overstocked, are you setting up a tank, check this out everybody!

[Bottomfeeder]

Oh, btw...there is no option for Cascade 600 on the filter menu. It only has the 500 and the 800
Also we need some bigger tanks
Oh, and it says that Smallmouth Bass will outgrow a 300g.

I'm not being pushy... just sayin

 

[yhbae01]

Oh, btw...there is no option for Cascade 600 on the filter menu. It only has the 500 and the 800

No problem - will add it.

Also we need some bigger tanks

Do you have some samples? Couldn't find many samples above 300g+ on the net.

Oh, and it says that Smallmouth Bass will outgrow a 300g.

What would be a reasonable minimum tank size for them?

I'm not being pushy... just sayin

No problem - it's helpful actually.

 

[Satan's Goldfish]

Yes it only works on full sized fishes at the moment. I have received many requests to support juvenile sized species as well and I am thinking about it. It will not be simple to do this plus it will probably require lots of trial and error work.

Which species am I missing?



I am trying to get it to work well for larger species as well. I mainly focused on tuning larger species during the past month or so - I think it is getting there. For smaller species, I have not heard any complaints for a while now.

Don't get me wrong, i think it's brilliant!

I know it'd probably be a nightmare to impliment, but i found, for example, that because it's programmed to assume the maximum size for an rtc of 60" that's what it's working too. I substituted rtc for rtcxtsn as well which equalled 4 rtc in total. At 60" each. Which is way way too much for a 1000gal. When in reality the fish are just 3 at 6-9" and one at 24" (for now!) which isn't a problem for 1000gal.

On from that, I might have missed it but was there anywhere that advised from the stock list the user inputs what capacity and dimension tank and rate of filtration would be required for their fish? Could probably work it out from the percentages given easily enough but might not be quite that black and white to figure out depending how those percentages were made. This would help in my particular instance as a guide line to what size pond/tank i'll need to build next.

Species missing for me were more options on types of Pangasius and rtcxtsn hybrids. My apologees if they're there and i missed them.

I did also note that eheim 2217 was rated at a flow of 105(ish)us gal per hour. I don't know if the american pumps on them are different but the ones on my 2217s are rated at 1000ltr per hour, which works out at 200-250us gal per hour.

Keep up the good work, this is a useful tool.

 

[yhbae01]

Don't get me wrong, i think it's brilliant!

Thanks

I know it'd probably be a nightmare to impliment, but i found, for example, that because it's programmed to assume the maximum size for an rtc of 60" that's what it's working too. I substituted rtc for rtcxtsn as well which equalled 4 rtc in total. At 60" each. Which is way way too much for a 1000gal. When in reality the fish are just 3 at 6-9" and one at 24" (for now!) which isn't a problem for 1000gal.

I understand the issue. Many experienced guys are now asking me to implement juv sized fishes. I spent a good part of yesterday thinking about it. I do want to implement it though, it may take a bit of time.

On from that, I might have missed it but was there anywhere that advised from the stock list the user inputs what capacity and dimension tank and rate of filtration would be required for their fish? Could probably work it out from the percentages given easily enough but might not be quite that black and white to figure out depending how those percentages were made. This would help in my particular instance as a guide line to what size pond/tank i'll need to build next.

So this is a reverse of what the app is doing - given the list of species, what tank size does it recommend... That's an interesting idea... I'll add that to the wishlist.

Species missing for me were more options on types of Pangasius and rtcxtsn hybrids. My apologees if they're there and i missed them.

If you could let me know the exact scientific names, I could give them a shot.

I did also note that eheim 2217 was rated at a flow of 105(ish)us gal per hour. I don't know if the american pumps on them are different but the ones on my 2217s are rated at 1000ltr per hour, which works out at 200-250us gal per hour.

I gave up on the idea of using just water flow rates a while back. The reason is because it appears that different companies use different method to achieve their filtration capacities. As an example, your Eheim canisters feature much much slower flow rate than say, Filstar series filters with equivalent filtration capacity. And I don't doubt Eheim's ability to perform their filtration tasks - I personally only own Eheim canisters. So instead, I go by the manufacturer's recommended filtration capacities. In this case, you are seeing 65% of manufacturer number.

Keep up the good work, this is a useful tool.

Thanks.

 

[aquahunter]

I'll admit the creator of this application is ambitious and dedicated but I don't know how accurate the number crunching has on the health and livelihood of the fish. does one degree (Celcius) really make a difference if it's above what their prefered conditions are?

If so i need to rethink putting clown loaches and discus in the same tank because it says the temp requirments are not compatible. just asking but is aquarism completly and exclusively a numbers game? or is gaining experience through experimentation still a large factor?


EDIT: i just noticed how many typos i've got up there. Oops.

 

[yhbae01]

I'll admit the creator of this application is ambitious and dedicated but I don't know how accurate the number crunching has on the health and livelihood of the fish. does one degree (Celcius) really make a difference if it's above what their prefered conditions are?

If so i need to rethink putting clown loaches and discus in the same tank because it says the temp requirments are not compatible. just asking but is aquarism completly and exclusively a numbers game? or is gaining experience through experimentation still a large factor?

Of course experimentation is a large factor. Remember, I am a keeper too with significant experiences. I would never reduce it Dow to a number game because you can't. What you are seeing here is an effort to build a site that allows less informed keepers (for particular species) to gain more information faster in one places. Since much of the initial info comes from other profile sites, not all are going to be accurate. But with experienced feedbacks integrated into the tool, I hope in the long run, it will better reflect people's experiences rather than just replicating data from other sites. This is not just for temperature data but compatibity aspects as well. In this case, if Clowns can live comfortably in slightly higher temp, then I can update that. In the future, anyone who selects the same combo will benefit thanks to your feedback. I encourage all experienced keepers to point out what's wrong with the report so that I can fix them.

 

[Satan's Goldfish]

If you could let me know the exact scientific names, I could give them a shot.

Now that's the tough bit, i know i have different types of Pangasius but not which ones! So here's the majority of them:

Pangasius pangasius

Pangasius nasutus

Pangasius micronemus

Pangasius larnaudii

Pangasius hypophthalmus - most likely suspect for mine.

And rtcxtsn:

cross of a species of Pseudoplatystoma and Phractocephalus

And finally purely out of curiosity (but don't want to seem cheeky) as possible future inhabitants:

Brachyplatystoma filamentosum

Brachyplatystoma rousseauxii

Thanks.

 

[aquahunter]

Of course experimentation is a large factor. Remember, I am a keeper too with significant experiences. I would never reduce it Dow to a number game because you can't. What you are seeing here is an effort to build a site that allows less informed keepers (for particular species) to gain more information faster in one places. Since much of the initial info comes from other profile sites, not all are going to be accurate. But with experienced feedbacks integrated into the tool, I hope in the long run, it will better reflect people's experiences rather than just replicating data from other sites. This is not just for temperature data but compatibity aspects as well. In this case, if Clowns can live comfortably in slightly higher temp, then I can update that. In the future, anyone who selects the same combo will benefit thanks to your feedback. I encourage all experienced keepers to point out what's wrong with the report so that I can fix them.

Best of luck to you man , it's admirable work you're doing.
I'm using a BOYU EF 25 filter canister. I know there are better ones out there but the Eheim i previously had got damaged and i needed a quick replacement so i had to go chinese. It says on the box it handles 450 L and I've got a 120 gal tank. any idea if that's sufficient?

 

[Bottomfeeder]

No problem - will add it.



Do you have some samples? Couldn't find many samples above 300g+ on the net.

Well, the stock ponds that are sold at WalMart, for example, and there are some big custom built tanks

What would be a reasonable minimum tank size for them?

Hmm... maybe like 250g. They rarely exceed 18".

No problem - it's helpful actually.

Glad to help. Your site is a great way to help beginning hobbyists, and a great way for us semi-experienced hobbyists to goof off during work and school

 

[Bottomfeeder]

Gasp! It says my 300 is overstocked with 30 Giant Gouramis!