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L27a,L27b,l27c royal?

I bought the goldline that was listed, he said the collection point was araguaia but wherever it was they are nice looking gold royals.

So Matt, you think its probably tocantins?

Have you ever encounter a royal for Teles Pires?

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Yes, that's a Tocantins, and looks to be a great one. Very nice colour extension into it's fins. Tocantins will develop the Panaque armbrusteri type of small and wide teeth layout like Xingu and Tapajos, whereas Araguaia have the larger narrow teeth layout like Panaque nigrolineatus. The Tocantins and Araguaia rivers run roughly parallel for their course and join near the city of Maraba. Your fish looks similar to other Tocantins that have appeared recently and were said to be from around the city of Palmas.

Teles Pires is one of the rivers found in the Tapajos basin and is where several of the specimens used for the description of Panaque armbrusteri were collected from. I think there are a couple different varieties within the Tapajos basin as juveniles can vary dramatically but the trouble is that very few adults appear, so judging what might be what is very difficult. This 'famous' fish is from the Teles Pires, and matches very closely one of the pictures used in the description of Panaque armbrusteri, so this is what 'true' Panaque armbrusteri probably looks like.

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I have 3 Tocantins ones an orange gold like the one purchased from snookn ones greenish and the other is yellow.
they're still young fish but have changed a lot since they came into the country. All three were collected and came in the same batch 3 others along with them came in but I heard they died they were a bit bigger.

Here's a nice big gold colored tocatins
http://www.plecoclub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3670


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Thanks Matt, I was told araguaia but eitherway love them. I wanted them for a while

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Wow.. thats a rare one.. Great colors on it... I do miss my old Royal.. problem with them is that they get too excited with veggies that they can eat themselves to death...
 
sorry to revive an old thread, but I just bought a Royal pleco and wanted to get an ID on it and price. I bought it as a non thunder line but was told it could be a thunder line. I read through this thread and the links and am still confused...

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