Official Off Topic Discussion Thread #1

[skjl47]

I am not sure what you mean by "the telling point".

Hello; the point being that there are so many who need this service. It is my understanding that in some places the sheer numbers are straining local school resources.

And what of the American children in the class ? Isn't it a total waste of time ? Those kids should have learned the language from their parents or on their time. If their parents were required to learn our language when they 1st arrived this would not have been an issue.

Hello; Yes it appears that for some time, maybe decades, a lot of people in the country (USA in my case) who do not try to learn English.
Also one other point it is reported that in very recent time there are somewhere around 30,000 alien children who crossed into the USA on their own.

If the parents are unable or unwilling to learn or teach their kids english then if they get the chance to learn English for free at school the kids are more likely to be assimilated and productive citizens when they are of employment age?

hello; Your comment makes sense up to a point. Had we as a people of this country been given the opportunity to decide that we wanted to take in all these illegal aliens then what you describe would be part of the deal. However the estimated 30,000,000 illegal aliens just sneaked in for the most part.

An item that need some expansion. One being that many of these children are not citizens and unless some laws are changed will not be citizens in the future. The "Dreamers" fit in this category.

Not sure why this is viewed as a bad thing,

Hello; On the face of it, it is not a bad thing. I guess being a part of the whole illegal alien problem is one way these English classes are considered bad. Maybe the single worse part of the classes being the burden of the expense on some school districts. I know some talking heads like to say things like the USA is "the richest most powerful country in the world". Well things may be real good for all the 1% and maybe down to the top 3 to 5% of wealthy people but the other 95% often struggle.

 

[PYRU]

.....just got off work and I'll be hitting a few fish shops this morning...anybody need anything?

T suvatti, black wolf, purple wolf, a grown orange female phyllobates Terribilis, and 6 dendrobates leucomelas please.

 

[jaws7777]

Not an American so just wondering, isn't this a good thing. If the parents are unable or unwilling to learn or teach their kids english then if they get the chance to learn English for free at school the kids are more likely to be assimilated and productive citizens when they are of employment age?
Not sure why this is viewed as a bad thing, but as stated I'm not in the U.S so genuinely wondering.

I don't think anyone is saying it's bad to teach immigrants the language of their new country and if it sounds that way then I'm not explaining. Immigration in the US is a mess. Wether it's legal or illegal.

Aus is tough to use as an example so say we move to China and are not required to learn there language now during the school day they attempt to teach the Chinese language to all of these new immigrants. It would take away time from children who already speak Chinese. That time during the day could be used on other subjects. Teach Grammer and spelling is different from teaching the actual language. S skjl47 would better explain.

Yrs ago immigrants were required to learn our language on their time. Wehter it would be at night or on the weekends. This was free of charge.

 

[jaws7777]

.....just got off work and I'll be hitting a few fish shops this morning...anybody need anything?

I'm running low on NLS megafish formula.

Thx hommie

 

[PYRU]

https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/06/flesh-eating_bacteria_in_alaba.html

Flesh eating bacteria is ramping up for all those vacationing in the gulf.

I worked in channel view tx a few yrs back. A supervisor over there went b down to Galveston. When he got back he had sores. They amputated one leg then another within a few weeks he had passed. It had entered through atheletes foot

 

[*ROCK*]

Not an American so just wondering, isn't this a good thing. If the parents are unable or unwilling to learn or teach their kids english then if they get the chance to learn English for free at school the kids are more likely to be assimilated and productive citizens when they are of employment age?
Not sure why this is viewed as a bad thing, but as stated I'm not in the U.S so genuinely wondering.

It could be viewed either way I guess. I'll be honest, my motivation posting that is I feel it is yet another benefit we citizens have to foot the bill for. I mean I don't think the teachers are volunteering their time, and it's a lot of schools. It might seem insignificant, but the list of benefits illegals get is loong, therefore expensive. Now we're having to dish out huge amounts of money, specifically for people who first disregard our law, while we're in the middle of a crisis trying to help our own citizens with basics like food and shelter. The problem is compounded when these illegal aliens start having 12 kids, when they as parents are being supported by us. All these alien children clog up the schools. At this point OUR kids are getting a poor education because the schools are over crowded, and we're paying for this to happen! As you can see, most of us are speaking out against ILLEGAL immigration. All we want is respect for our country first. These people aren't even fleeing persecution, so asylum is not an option.

 

[Deadliestviper7]

Not an American so just wondering, isn't this a good thing. If the parents are unable or unwilling to learn or teach their kids english then if they get the chance to learn English for free at school the kids are more likely to be assimilated and productive citizens when they are of employment age?
Not sure why this is viewed as a bad thing, but as stated I'm not in the U.S so genuinely wondering.

It would be good if they actually learned anything, however people who actually speak English shouldn't have to go to this class

 

[jaws7777]

https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/06/flesh-eating_bacteria_in_alaba.html

Flesh eating bacteria is ramping up for all those vacationing in the gulf.

I worked in channel view tx a few yrs back. A supervisor over there went b down to Galveston. When he got back he had sores. They amputated one leg then another within a few weeks he had passed. It had entered through atheletes foot

They just tested positive for some bacteria at our local beaches

 

[krichardson]

T suvatti, black wolf, purple wolf, a grown orange female phyllobates Terribilis, and 6 dendrobates leucomelas please.

Sorry,the shops I stopped at didn't have any of those goodies.

I'm running low on NLS megafish formula.

Thx hommie

Must have been sold out...other than Hikari all they had was this stuff.
it can be all yours.....just come and pick it up.

 

[jaws7777]

Sorry,the shops I stopped at didn't have any of those goodies.


Must have been sold out...other than Hikari all they had was this stuff.
View attachment 1321193 it can be all yours.....just come and pick it up.

I have some one hand. The bichirs go nuts for the NLS stuff.

I would come by for a beer tho. Wife is pissed at me so not gonna be a blissful day