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apriliarider15

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Pull one or two leaves off the vine and stick the nodes where the leaves were in the water. You should have roots starting in a few days to a week.
 

Just Toby

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With people mentioning food plants it is worth noting that I have read many times that we should not eat the plants afterwards as there is a high level chance of food poisioning due to what we feed our fish along with the humid conditions that bacteria love.

Also, I have always been under the impression that pruning is one of the keys to this process working at its best as that kick starts the plant to rejuvinate and take up more energy in the form of nutrients - much the same as algae refugiums needing to be stripped and allowed to re-grow. This may be why people with much larger plants get less results i.e. it is the GROWING and not the end result that we are interested in.

I wonder if we could grow something like grass which tends to grow more when we cut it due to the defense against grasing? (next we will have just grass and cows beneith our tanks!):headbang2
 

lnelms2

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apriliarider15;4105301; said:
Pull one or two leaves off the vine and stick the nodes where the leaves were in the water. You should have roots starting in a few days to a week.
Done. Thanks.
 

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lnelms2;4104036; said:
Do you have any photos of your setup? I bought some baby pothos and I have them suspended above my tank on some eggcrate with what looks to be the stems barely in the water... I've had like 3 plants die on me so far and I must be doing something wrong, lol. I thought that being submerged would kill the plants?
Don't know if the site is fixed yet, but as of this morning I still couldn't post pictures. Will do so soon.

I trimmed the leaves off of 10" or so of vine and submerged the bare vine. As stated, roots will start sprouting soon at the nodes.

I have never trimmed any of the vines, some are now pushing 10' in length. Not sure what effect trimming them does as they continuosly grow, other than providing more vines to stick in your tank.
 

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Just Toby;4106467; said:
With people mentioning food plants it is worth noting that I have read many times that we should not eat the plants afterwards as there is a high level chance of food poisioning due to what we feed our fish along with the humid conditions that bacteria love.

Also, I have always been under the impression that pruning is one of the keys to this process working at its best as that kick starts the plant to rejuvinate and take up more energy in the form of nutrients - much the same as algae refugiums needing to be stripped and allowed to re-grow. This may be why people with much larger plants get less results i.e. it is the GROWING and not the end result that we are interested in.

I wonder if we could grow something like grass which tends to grow more when we cut it due to the defense against grasing? (next we will have just grass and cows beneith our tanks!):headbang2
I thought this was the whole idea behind hydroponics? Grow food plants faster utilizing the nutrients produced by fish and other aquatic creatures?
 

coyotethug

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Look up Aquaponics or go to either www.diyaquaponics.com or www.backyardaquaponics.com for tons of great info. There is no problem with eating what you grow as long as you aren't using meds on your tanks which could affect humans. The most nutrient dense parts of plants are fruits, taking tomatoes from a vine exports a lot of nutrients. I personally believe that ebb and flow systems would work best for our applications, you would just need a sump with a large volume to take the water that will drain and fill.

The Aussies really have us beat on this. They have been doing it for a long time and really have it figured out.
 

Just Toby

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coyotethug;4106958; said:
Look up Aquaponics or go to either www.diyaquaponics.com or www.backyardaquaponics.com for tons of great info. There is no problem with eating what you grow as long as you aren't using meds on your tanks which could affect humans. The most nutrient dense parts of plants are fruits, taking tomatoes from a vine exports a lot of nutrients. I personally believe that ebb and flow systems would work best for our applications, you would just need a sump with a large volume to take the water that will drain and fill.

The Aussies really have us beat on this. They have been doing it for a long time and really have it figured out.
Well eat at your own risk then, I have read medical evidence that there has been a 40% incidence in food poisoning cases liked to fish keeping let alone eating stuff grown, the basic advice on veg filters is NOT to eat.

Yes, hydroponics works on the principle of faster growth due to liquid suspended fertiliser but they are not growing mass produced strawberries on fish waste generated from uncooked prawns!

Yes, the Aussies do this, in fact my brother in law did t for years but with properly prepapred food grade ingedients...not pooh from mr Ray!

I do not mind what you do...you may even lose a lot of weight very quickly....it will be like the bottom dropped out of your world...and the world dropped out of your bottom!

I will try this but I will not be easting it!
 

I<3fish

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Just Toby;4107007; said:
Well eat at your own risk then, I have read medical evidence that there has been a 40% incidence in food poisoning cases liked to fish keeping let alone eating stuff grown, the basic advice on veg filters is NOT to eat.

Yes, hydroponics works on the principle of faster growth due to liquid suspended fertiliser but they are not growing mass produced strawberries on fish waste generated from uncooked prawns!

Yes, the Aussies do this, in fact my brother in law did t for years but with properly prepapred food grade ingedients...not pooh from mr Ray!

I do not mind what you do...you may even lose a lot of weight very quickly....it will be like the bottom dropped out of your world...and the world dropped out of your bottom!

I will try this but I will not be easting it!
The "fertilizer" you are talking about is from fish wastes in the water. And if you feed fish cooked or uncooked, it makes no difference to the plants, actually uncooked is healthier for fish, so you really do not know what you are talking about. I suggest you read up on the nitrogen cycle and the nutrients that plants take up.

What do you think regular crops are grown from? (animal crap and sewage water...) The only health risks would be from meds that have effects on humans.

And could you give this so called "medical evidence?"

Edit: I see you were talking about hydroponics, not aquaponics, although aquaponics is more efficient and still grows edible plants off of fish wastes.
 

manlyfish

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wouldn't the plants rot? or do you replace the cuttings every day?
 

manlyfish

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hey it maybe able to affect you slightly (im not complety sure)ithe chemicals in the fish waste could contain harmful bacteria but if you eat fast food you can't get much worse then that so go ahead and do it atleast theres no pesticides or fillers
 
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