krj-1168;5021917; said:
Based on...?
I would agree, that tank should be larger, but honestly at the point it is now, the white tip and black tip are not my biggest concerns.
They look healthy from what I can see.
Wow found a really cool tank on Youtube. Great sharks!
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Based on...?
I would agree, that tank should be larger, but honestly at the point it is now, the white tip and black tip are not my biggest concerns.
They look healthy from what I can see.
Based on...?
I would agree, that tank should be larger, but honestly at the point it is now, the white tip and black tip are not my biggest concerns.
They look healthy from what I can see.
They also don't look to be more than about 2 ft long. Which is why a 10 ft diameter pool seems to be enough.
But these sharks still have alot of growing to do before they reach their full adult size. And the notice the tank sizes I recommended above were based on their size at maturity - not their max adult size.
We dont disagree on that, or anything else for that matter.
I just want to know why you say that is the minimum tank size?
What is your source? Yourself? I just want to know where all these minimum tank sizes are coming from.
For a shark that swims constantly at about 5' long, I would probably want at least a 20' pool, no less than 4' deep.
If someone told me I had one arriving tomorrow, that is the sort of minimum setting I would set up for it, based on my own personal thoughts.
I just want to know why you say that is the minimum tank size?
What is your source? Yourself? I just want to know where all these minimum tank sizes are coming from.
For a shark that swims constantly at about 5' long, I would probably want at least a 20' pool, no less than 4' deep.
If someone told me I had one arriving tomorrow, that is the sort of minimum setting I would set up for it, based on my own personal thoughts.
Okay - noticed the terms I've stated with the pond sizes - not just the volume & dimensions themselves.
Basically - an 18 ft diameter pond that is 3.5 ft deep for a 3.5 ft ORV(in this case a BTR). That would translate to a minimum of a 25ft diameter pond that is 5 ft deep for a 5 ft ORV. Or if we look at the species maximum for a Blacktip Reef - then you would be looking at a pond with is at least 30ft in diameter x 6 ft in water depth (about 31,700 gallons) as a minimum suggested pond size to keep a Blacktip Reef for life in.
Note - No where on this thread did I state that a 6,600 gallon pond would be good to keep a Blacktip Reef or a Whitetip reef for it's entire life. Just until it reachs maturity - at which time it will definitely need a larger pond. So Chill.
As for the figures I use - my figures are realistic minimums based on the various aquarists that I've talked with, and the research that I've done. Which may include figures from certain well documented source books like Elasmobranch Husbandry Manual
Basically - an 18 ft diameter pond that is 3.5 ft deep for a 3.5 ft ORV(in this case a BTR). That would translate to a minimum of a 25ft diameter pond that is 5 ft deep for a 5 ft ORV. Or if we look at the species maximum for a Blacktip Reef - then you would be looking at a pond with is at least 30ft in diameter x 6 ft in water depth (about 31,700 gallons) as a minimum suggested pond size to keep a Blacktip Reef for life in.
Note - No where on this thread did I state that a 6,600 gallon pond would be good to keep a Blacktip Reef or a Whitetip reef for it's entire life. Just until it reachs maturity - at which time it will definitely need a larger pond. So Chill.
As for the figures I use - my figures are realistic minimums based on the various aquarists that I've talked with, and the research that I've done. Which may include figures from certain well documented source books like Elasmobranch Husbandry Manual
3000gt;5029296; said:I have no ideas about sharks but it is an awesome tank setup.
I agree. I wish the tank size conversations would venture off. It's nice providing the shark with 30ft of swimming room but there are much worse scenarios. State your tank size comment and move on
krj-1168;5029291; said:Okay - noticed the terms I've stated with the pond sizes - not just the volume & dimensions themselves.
Basically - an 18 ft diameter pond that is 3.5 ft deep for a 3.5 ft ORV(in this case a BTR). That would translate to a minimum of a 25ft diameter pond that is 5 ft deep for a 5 ft ORV. Or if we look at the species maximum for a Blacktip Reef - then you would be looking at a pond with is at least 30ft in diameter x 6 ft in water depth (about 31,700 gallons) as a minimum suggested pond size to keep a Blacktip Reef for life in.
Note - No where on this thread did I state that a 6,600 gallon pond would be good to keep a Blacktip Reef or a Whitetip reef for it's entire life. Just until it reachs maturity - at which time it will definitely need a larger pond. So Chill.
As for the figures I use - my figures are realistic minimums based on the various aquarists that I've talked with, and the research that I've done. Which may include figures from certain well documented source books like Elasmobranch Husbandry Manual
Im probably coming off the wrong way.
Im not trying to say that you are wrong, or that I disagree and am right.
I just see a lot of interesting things going on. Tank sizes never seem to be big enough, (Even though we keep fish that are just as active in much smaller tanks proportionally), and yet there are also a lot of shark people that are keeping nocturnally active sharks in tanks that are only big enough for them to really lie on the substrate.
I was just hoping that you would go more into depth about your recommendation. Im not saying that I will set that as a standard for myself keeping sharks, I just wanted to know where you, and your information was coming from.
I think we can both agree that bigger is better when it comes to open water sharks.
FLESHY;5029920; said:Im probably coming off the wrong way.
Im not trying to say that you are wrong, or that I disagree and am right.
I just see a lot of interesting things going on. Tank sizes never seem to be big enough, (Even though we keep fish that are just as active in much smaller tanks proportionally), and yet there are also a lot of shark people that are keeping nocturnally active sharks in tanks that are only big enough for them to really lie on the substrate.
I was just hoping that you would go more into depth about your recommendation. Im not saying that I will set that as a standard for myself keeping sharks, I just wanted to know where you, and your information was coming from.
I think we can both agree that bigger is better when it comes to open water sharks.
Fleshy you suggested
"For a shark that swims constantly at about 5' long, I would probably want at least a 20' pool, no less than 4' deep."
then you state, " Im not saying that I will set that as a standard for myself keeping sharks."
Do you have any idea what your even talking about? You started a completely pointless discussion. You could have just asked what size tank do you think a blacktip needs.
Well - I can tell you from the research I've done authors like Scott Michael (Aquarium Sharks & Rays) and Jeffery Anderson seem to be way too small in their minimum tanks size recommendations.
Even most public aquariums can't fully replica an ocean habitat or amount of space sharks have in the wild. And no public aquarium replicas the entire natural range for a single specimen for most shark species.
Even most public aquariums can't fully replica an ocean habitat or amount of space sharks have in the wild. And no public aquarium replicas the entire natural range for a single specimen for most shark species.
