How do I make my flowerhorns kok bigger?

ChaosBreaker

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If u don't over feed ur fish with beef then it will be fine. Like 1 meal of pellets and 1 meal of beef. If ur scared of ur flowerhorn getting bloat then u can do 2 day pellets and 1 day beef. How ever u wanna do it. Beef contain a lot of proteins in them so it will make ur fish grow really fast and have a chance of having a bigger kok. If u think it's too risky u can feed ur fish the monster kok pellet and when it grow the kok will grow with it. Have u ever walk into a aquarium store and their flowerhorn is only 2 inches and have a giant head? Well that how they do it they feed their fish a lot of proteins food but I only know 1 of the food is beef. The genes that flowerhorn have from their parents is one way and the other is protein foods like beef. Ur fish might get more aggressive too after u feed it beef


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DDK

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^ To break it down to simplest terms here is how a kok size is determined.

1 Genetics
2 water quality
3 tank size/stress
4 what you feed

A fh is a omnivore and not a carnivore so your conclusion of feeding beef heart to make up for genetics is just wrong. A 40% protein diet will give the same results from a 60% diet of protein. Just because you pack your fh full of protein your not going to somehow bypass the actual genetic make up of the fish to reach past the genetics. A fh having a kok at 2 inches is the genetics and water quality not the food.
 

ChaosBreaker

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^ To break it down to simplest terms here is how a kok size is determined.

1 Genetics
2 water quality
3 tank size/stress
4 what you feed

A fh is a omnivore and not a carnivore so your conclusion of feeding beef heart to make up for genetics is just wrong. A 40% protein diet will give the same results from a 60% diet of protein. Just because you pack your fh full of protein your not going to somehow bypass the actual genetic make up of the fish to reach past the genetics. A fh having a kok at 2 inches is the genetics and water quality not the food.
I never said beef could make up for the genetic. Feeling ur flowerhorn beef can make the kok bigger than wat it can be. Gene is one and food is the second. The gene that already in the fish will give it a big kok but if u feed it beef the kok can get bigger. A lot of time it's depend on the food that u feed ur flowerhorn. I'm not saying that just feeding beef can make small kok to grow as big as the one with giant kok gene but with beef and gene it can make the kok grow bigger. I'm not saying to feed ur fish beef only. Too much proteins can mess up ur fish. But sometime u should mix up the food and give it something that pack a lot of proteins once in a while.


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I never said beef could make up for the genetic. Feeling ur flowerhorn beef can make the kok bigger than wat it can be. Gene is one and food is the second. The gene that already in the fish will give it a big kok but if u feed it beef the kok can get bigger. A lot of time it's depend on the food that u feed ur flowerhorn. I'm not saying that just feeding beef can make small kok to grow as big as the one with giant kok gene but with beef and gene it can make the kok grow bigger. I'm not saying to feed ur fish beef only. Too much proteins can mess up ur fish. But sometime u should mix up the food and give it something that pack a lot of proteins once in a while.


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Yea you did right here
Have u ever walk into a aquarium store and their flowerhorn is only 2 inches and have a giant head? Well that how they do it they feed their fish a lot of proteins food but I only know 1 of the food is beef. The genes that flowerhorn have from their parents is one way and the other is protein foods like beef. Ur fish might get more aggressive too after u feed it beef


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You basically state that there are two ways to get a big kok. One being genetics and the other being protein. What are you basing this information on? Just hear say? Because you surly did even state an example of walk into a store and see two inch fh's with a "giant head".

You have no factual information to back up anything you say. You say one way is genetics and the other is high protein foods when you dont understand a fh is a omnivore and not a carnivore. Do you even know the % of protein content for a certain amount of beef when your willing to argue that a high protein diet in your words " The genes that flowerhorn have from their parents is one way and the other is protein foods like beef."? You state two ways and then say there's only one way when you're previous post says there's two ways? How do you know the protein content and relation to the growth of a kok? Please i'd love to hear it.

A protein content of 40% is perfectly able to sustain and let a fh grow to his full potential. I'll state again fh's are OMNIVORES, not carnivores, packing your fh full of protein does two things. 1). Shortens his life 2). And you can forget about water quality. This fh hobby and the "get a bigger kok secretes" make me sick, usually it shortens the life of a fh dramatically and the owner of the premature dying fh gives bs information to new people trying to learn how to take care of their fish. I hope no one listens to you because you sir are full of it.
 

ChaosBreaker

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1 I never said to feed them beef only. I only said to feed them once a while to give them some proteins. 2 u shorten ur fish live if u feed it too much proteins. 3 I never said to dump the beef into the water and dirty the water. 4 I think this is the part that u misunderstood me on my bad on my part I wasn't very clear with it.Yes gene from the parents give the baby the giant kok. Some fish might form their kok late some might form early depend on the gene and the fish. But after the kok is already form u can feed it different type of foods to help the kok grow and I said I only know one of the food is beef. Different people have different methods to grow their flowerhorns. I'm not saying it's a carnivores and to feed it meats only. 5/7 or 6/7 days I feed my flowerhorn pellets and maybe the 1 or 2 days I might feed them something like shrimps beef or blood worms u know just something to help it grow. Like if u would eat the same food every meal ur body not gonna have as much proteins as other. I'm not saying ur body won't grow and develop but it just develop slower than other people who eat different food and give them proteins and wat they need. If u don't like my idea u can just be like oh I don't agree with u I like other ideas better. I'm just trying to share the information that I have. I'm sure there are many other ways how people grow their flowerhorns and help their flowerhorn show it's full potentials.


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JOSCAR05

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Too much talk of beefing up a kok with beef. Beef has lots of protien and is perfect for bodybuilders not fh. This is real funny kok.... I mean lol.


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ChaosBreaker

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Yea bodybuilder a need to eat a lot of stuff for the body to recover after the work out. But it doesn't necessary have to be beef it can also be other food or shrimp (brine shrimps) that have protein to help the fish grow. If u r going to feed it beef hearts or beef make sure to remove all the fat. With beef heart u can mix medicines and stuff in for the fish. There r videos of wat people mix with beef heart. I never try the beef heart before I have only feed my fish small pieces of beef. After the feeding make sure to clean up after it and u might wanna skip the next meal. I'm not a professional at fish but if u know wat ur doing then it should be fine. It will help the fish to grow at a faster rate.


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