96 x 30 x 24 Tank and Arowana Species

[islandguy11]

Well with twentyleagues' last wise words said (and hopefully taken to heart), and especially since the topic of Arowana is now a moot point according to all sides, may I humbly suggest Zugs that you start a new thread about your endeavors and questions in another more suitable sub-forum? You might consider the Poly forum, they're kind of a more chill bunch over there

 

[Backfromthedead]

My main issue with threads like this is we are just treating the animals as objects. If you grow tired or it outgrows the tank you can just grt rid of it. I know ive done it too in the past but usually because of some sort of issue that was unavoidable and it was better for the welfare of the animals. My recent life changes (not a story for this thread) were a line drawn in the sand, and I still have all my fish for better or worse and intend on keeping them. Why? Because I made a commitment to thise animals when I took them home. Most are long lived animals and now rely on me to support them.
Again I stress this and stress others the tank is to big. I know its been ordered. Get a smaller tank in the mean time with some suitable fish for that size tank and learn. Worse comes to worse you can later use that tank for a qt or a grow out. You can start your sds in a 75g learn and grow them some till the 300 is done and move them over. It happens all the time.
Basically what im saying has been said before when you buy an animal you now have the obligation to care for said animal for its entire life in the best manner possible. To do less is unfare to say the least.

Idk man this seems counter intuitive to everything we urge newcomers to do everyday on this site. If you want to keep big fish get a big tank BEFORE you get the fish. If the OPs in a position to set up a 300 than that is what he should get. The bigger the better is the name of the game around here. Why put any fish in 75 when you have the ability to give them a much better life in a much better tank? I just dont think the learning curve for a novice keeper is much affected by 75 gallons vs. 300 gallons.

 

[jaws7777]

Absolutely nothing wrong with a noob starting out with a 300. I have no idea why hes being told maintenance is harder.... what is the difference between maintaining a 300 or 75 ? Bioload would be the main factor not size.


Infact id argue it would be easier to maintain. The larger water volume will be more forgiving, a simple basic well though out sump with filter socks and a cheap pump for w looking water changes makes life really easy.

Lol now noobs are being told the tanks are too big lmaoooo

 

[jaws7777]

Idk man this seems counter intuitive to everything we urge newcomers to do everyday on this site. If you want to keep big fish get a big tank BEFORE you get the fish. If the OPs in a position to set up a 300 than that is what he should get. The bigger the better is the name of the game around here. Why put any fish in 75 when you have the ability to give them a much better life in a much better tank? I just dont think the learning curve for a novice keeper is much affected by 75 gallons vs. 300 gallons.

Right on.


That mfk goal post keeps on moving lmaoo

 

[twentyleagues]

Idk man this seems counter intuitive to everything we urge newcomers to do everyday on this site. If you want to keep big fish get a big tank BEFORE you get the fish. If the OPs in a position to set up a 300 than that is what he should get. The bigger the better is the name of the game around here. Why put any fish in 75 when you have the ability to give them a much better life in a much better tank? I just dont think the learning curve for a novice keeper is much affected by 75 gallons vs. 300 gallons.

Because most "new comers" have kept some sort of fish before. Very few jump right off into the deep end. I believe that the 300 will become a large boiling pot of death before he sees it happening and he won't be able to recover it. A smaller tank with less animals less volume is more managable to a newb over all. A 50%wc takes minutes not hrs. Personally I like tank maintenance alot do not. Hes never done it and seems to me by the questions kinda like the underpants gnomes from South Park. You start here and poof in the middle to the end profit! We are glossing over the entire middle as they did on the show. The middle is the most important part and learning the middle on a 300g tank is a daunting task. I agree the larger tank in the hands of someone at least a little experianced is a much better option. Thats not him man! I dont get why we dont get that he has ZERO experience not some or a little, never even kept a goldfish in a bowl Zero. Telling him to set up a 300g tank is like telling some one with a learners permit to get behind the wheel of a hell cat or better yet an 18wheeler.

 

[jaws7777]

So what experience is needed in maintaining a 300 over a 75 gal ? So long as he doesnt over stock it....which is all to common with newbs and any size tank

 

[Backfromthedead]

Because most "new comers" have kept some sort of fish before. Very few jump right off into the deep end. I believe that the 300 will become a large boiling pot of death before he sees it happening and he won't be able to recover it. A smaller tank with less animals less volume is more managable to a newb over all. A 50%wc takes minutes not hrs. Personally I like tank maintenance alot do not. Hes never done it and seems to me by the questions kinda like the underpants gnomes from South Park. You start here and poof in the middle to the end profit! We are glossing over the entire middle as they did on the show. The middle is the most important part and learning the middle on a 300g tank is a daunting task. I agree the larger tank im the hands of someone at least a little experianced is a much better option. Thats not him man! I dont get why we dont get that he has ZERO experience not some or a little, never even kept a goldfish in a bowl Zero. Twlling him to set up a 300g tank is like telling some one with a learners permit to get behind the wheel of a hell cat or better yet an 18wheeler.

All good points. But what he/she does have is MFK, and from what i can tell at least a willingness to do research and learn before jumping off "into the deep end".

If zugs were to start a thread "how to set up my new 300 yada yada" and be able to absorb at least half of the advice the helpful people on this site would surely give, then I'd say he's off to a great start. My own start into fishkeeping involved several failures over years (including at least one "boiling pot of death") but it wasnt until i started researching and posting here that i began having success keeping fish healthily and happily.

I wont lie and say keeping a 300 is just as easy as a 75. It is more maintenance and time for sure. But give the guy/girl a chance, they may very well be up to the challenge.

 

[twentyleagues]

All good points. But what he/she does have is MFK, and from what i can tell at least a willingness to do research and learn before jumping off "into the deep end".

If zugs were to start a thread "how to set up my new 300 yada yada" and be able to absorb at least half of the advice the helpful people on this site would surely give, then I'd say he's off to a great start. My own start into fishkeeping involved several failures over years (including at least one "boiling pot of death") but it wasnt until i started researching and posting here that i began having success keeping fish healthily and happily.

I wont lie and say keeping a 300 is just as easy as a 75. It is more maintenance and time for sure. But give the guy/girl a chance, they may very well be up to the challenge.

I hope so. But as we have seen here the information processing may be a little lacking. Could just be willfully ignoring pertanant facts as to bully his/her way to the only thing that matters to them the answer at hand and ignoring all the middle stuff as its not "cool". Or simple can not process that much info..... I dont know and I guess we will see. My only further statment at this time is everyone makes mistakes it how we learn. A mistake in a 75g is alot smaller then a 300g. A mistake with a $10 fish is alot smaller then one at $1000. And finally a mistake with a small herbivorous fish is alot less painful then an armored flesh rending monster. Remember starting fresh. I dont think a post saying my arowana has my hand in its mouth and wont let go is going to get the quick response it needs. (That part was just for fun)

 

[islandguy11]

I dont think a post saying my arowana has my hand in its mouth and wont let go is going to get the quick response it needs. (That part was just for fun)

Ha ha ha, well it wasn't fun for me ? Lol just a lil' kiss from BBXB when she was smaller. I did read about some guy getting his bottom lip bit off by an Arowana but not sure if it's true or not.

 

[RD.]

IMHO a 300 gallon with a couple of canistor filters, I believe the OP stated Fx6's were going to be used (I assume that the tank is not being drilled?) , is not a big deal. The tank is ordered, money has been spent, it may even be in shipping mode at this point, either way there is no turning back. I would have added a sump to the mix, but perhaps that would have been too complicated for the OP, who knows? Not everything has exactly been well thought out thus far.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion here, but I'm not sure how a differing of opinion = MFK goal posts are moving? lol