No I hear ya and I know yer anxious to see pics maybe I shouldnt be talkin about them without pics, but I aint BSing, showed you my Gib and Manueli already. Need to work on setting better tanks for all these fish I got in past month and let them heal,acustom a little, I just got 5 of em within the past 1-2 months because Pedro had em, been looking for a gibbus from Pedro for 5 years! and he finally got em in stock along with a few other species I wanted. I didnt want to let the chance to get them slide because sometimes he dont get the ones you want back for a LONG time...I know this been dealin with him for 8 years, gotta grab em when he's got em or else you never know when they coming back.