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dingoofus

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masone;3373621; said:
It's in his garage so I'd say flooding is not going to be a problem. And at the end of the day, you did exactly what the authorities seem to believe everyone in our hobby will do, release our fish when they cause a problem or we don't want them anymore. Sure, commonsense and that crazy thing called reality may tell us that the fish isn't going to ever get out from wherever it was released but unfortunately commonsense doesn't come in to play as far as the authorities are concerned. If it did I would have piranhas again cos commonsense dictates that I'm not going to release fish I pay 1K+ for.
Despite what ameho believes, what I done was a calculated decision. I think the only stupid thing I done was admit to what I did on a public forum. Just because he done a course (which means nothing in my books, a sheet of paper does not make up for lack of intelligence) does not mean everyone else is dumb and knows nothing of fish keeping and conservation.
 

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Drew'n'Kylene;3373646; said:
Check what this guy said about Australia and keeping sharks in a 6x2x2 in this thread: 632 gallonshark koi pond tank.....
By far one of the best threads I'e read on here. lol. I had to post a reply.
 

amehel0

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hmm okay so somewone whos doen environmental studies and someone whos done aquacultural studies both telling u it was stupid means nothing that makes sense.
by the way its 4 sheets of paper!!. im also studying an even higher qualification. ive done hands on work in multiple aquacultural industries yet youve done none. fact is that your fish would be so highly removed from loacl populations if there are any of that species that ud be stuffing up local populations if any creating genetically weaker fish.

last time i checkled an ill informed perosn cannot make a calculated decision they can only make a calulated decision of what they know. lets jsut introduce diseases and pest fish into our water ways. you know australias aquacultural industries is the most disease free and yet the ornamental side istn and that soemone importing a fish not quarantined properly which then through multiple fish reaches yours and you introduce it in a water way. ohh yeh thats great its cause of people such as ur self that we cant keep exotic predators. also learn how to keep fish responsibly if you cant keep dont buy it.
 

Eric A

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All this coming from a fella who keeps tilapia...

And you say you have done courses regarding introduction of pest fish in our waterways. Well then you should know about the devestation that tilapia have caused, oh, and surely you must know they are ILLEGAL!

It's done allready, you can't take it back, so why blast him with all this garbage that is of little use now.

Now....on a more higher note

I went fishing again today and caught two gudgeons, no idea what type, a freshwater clam, and catch of the day, a tiny eel, about 9cm long and 7mm thick. No idea what species, but obviously he's a native.
 

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hey dingoofus id hardly call myself an expert on environmental impact statements but i know how to assess flood possibilties stock escape and sotck escape prevention. i know there is a chance of flooding for ****s sake i live in qld! however soncidering i live just off sandgate road about 3km ffrom the local creek my fish would have to go up a hill odnw a hill up a hill then down 50 metres of steps then a 10 metre rock hill thing to get to the creek or travel 10km along flat terrain to get to the local saltwater creek. i also have concrete lifts in the gorund to prevent stock escape all my stormwater pipes do not work. and plus there with in a pond. so i consider the chance of it flooding little. where as there is a reasone all the water has gathered in the local pond because its a natrual low. all my fish are in above ground structures. also i have placeto accomadate everyone of my purchases. so if my fish is a bit to agro it can go in the big 4500 litre pond and it will be in there with sartoga, silver perch sooty grunters khaki grunters eels and lots of agro fish. plenty of space. im sorry but you cant justify stupidity. calling me names isnt gonna help u neither. i know i aitn a kow it all. i just consider my self knowledgeable in basic chemistry and aquacultural principals. i know **** all about training monkeys how to dance, treating cancer, working with wood, electonics(i wrelly wish i knew bout electronics) and much much more. theres a reason i go on forums to share what ive leanrt and to learn. iev learnt that we cant keep illegals because of the release of different fish.im happy there illegal and hard to get and expensive it stops peopel liek you releasing snakeheads pirhana gars rtcs datnoids pikes, rays, shovelnose catfish into the wild. i could imagine you with a snakehead

'ohh my snakehead was a bit agro snapped my 2' native in half so i chcuked him in the local creek pleny too munch on there!'
 

amehel0

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eric a it will probably be a short or long fin. yeh i keep thoose fish so what. firstly ive got 1 as it was my first fish so i keep it for sentimental purposes. secondly i caught all the others and didnt have the heart to kill them they arent a problem ill have you note that since i used to catch 8 large tilapiars a week i have over 6mnths caugt 1 baby tilapia. thas with me catching 200 platies and mozzy fish a week. btw i killed most of the tilapias i caught. you know id rather remove a pest fish from an eco system then put one in. ohh yeh not to mention ive only got males of 2 different species. i know its illegal but atleqst im responsible enough to give them ample space and to not release them
 

amehel0

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ohh yeh dingo doofus theres a difference between a strain and a genetic stock. ever wondered why you can have 30 different strains of rainbows under one species yet theres only 1 strian of barramundi yet there are genetic differences of barramundi from river to river? do you knwo why sterile aquaculture farms are not allowed to raise fish for stockign purposes and only for food? as apposed to green water facilities. because thoos fish are much weaker immunely.
 

Eric A

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Yeah, I am fairly certain one of those, it has got the lightbrown and dark brown honeycomb colouring.

All because number of tilapia have decreased in numbers where you are doesn't mean it's getting better. They may be increasing somewhere else. I can see why yours is sentimental. I saw my first live tilapia mariae today, very nice looking. My mate had been keeping it trying to ID it for a while. I came over and told him it s a tilapia. He had thought it was a jungle perch hahaha.
 

amehel0

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same as mine if thinks its lognfin
eric a completly agree lol on the jungle perch. to give you a perspective of my naivity i put it in a 6x6" 2' tall hex tank thinking it ownt get too big now its nearly 1'.
 
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