BAD ***$$$$$ 500 gal setup 8'x5x20" ALOT of pics

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DaveB;4602397; said:
When you say too fine a cut, do you mean it doesn't quite get the deepest ones? What 3m compound? This stuff?

On my old one I went with 600-2000 auto sand paper then a kit with little squares that went up to 12000. Took forever. Then used one of the hand buffers with Novus 2 and 3. Got all the deep scratches out 100% but I always had a bit of a hazy look on it when the ambient light hit it from certain angles. I think it was probably just a lack of a finishing polish. I'll be really interested in seeing how well yours comes out with your products.
yea, thats the stuff. I have a lil hazyness right now, but im hoping to clear it up. once filled i think any haziness inside the tank will go away, but the outside i might have to keep wiping it with a micro fiber to keep the luster up. We'll see. Also we built a stand last night, so ill have pics up shortly.
 

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That's a LOT of buffing. Perhaps a polishing compound after you get it where you like it might help it keep from hazing. They must make some kind of protectent(sp?) you can put on it. Not too familiar with acrylic.


Can't wait to see the stand. I over built the crap outta mine for my 300 so curious to see what you did for yours. 500 gallon. Figure about 10 pounds per gallon for water, media, accessories. Thats 5000 pounds. Should be interesting.
 

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sponger_2;4605755; said:
yea, thats the stuff. I have a lil hazyness right now, but im hoping to clear it up. once filled i think any haziness inside the tank will go away, but the outside i might have to keep wiping it with a micro fiber to keep the luster up. We'll see. Also we built a stand last night, so ill have pics up shortly.
Nice.

In my experience with a 110 I sold, the hazing is completely invisible from straight on when the tank has water in it. BUT, from the side, you can notice it. And if the tank lights are off but a room light is on, at certain angles you can see it then too, in the light's reflection.

That's the part that always bothered me. During daytime it didn't look like the fish were floating in mid-air. The side view might be more of an issue for you.

I'm going to sand over what I did (to remove what I can only imagine is a protective cover of rubbing compound) and try a new, much wetter, technique, on Beast's recommendation, for a layer or two (which shouldn't take that long). Then I'm going to throw out both of my worthless buffers and buy a variable speed one and do the compound again. Or, since the sanding will have me down to nothing but super fine scratching, I may just go straight to the plastX. We'll see. Plenty of time and space to experiment.
 

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DaveB;4605793; said:
Nice.

In my experience with a 110 I sold, the hazing is completely invisible from straight on when the tank has water in it. BUT, from the side, you can notice it. And if the tank lights are off but a room light is on, at certain angles you can see it then too, in the light's reflection.

That's the part that always bothered me. During daytime it didn't look like the fish were floating in mid-air. The side view might be more of an issue for you.

I'm going to sand over what I did (to remove what I can only imagine is a protective cover of rubbing compound) and try a new, much wetter, technique, on Beast's recommendation, for a layer or two (which shouldn't take that long). Then I'm going to throw out both of my worthless buffers and buy a variable speed one and do the compound again. Or, since the sanding will have me down to nothing but super fine scratching, I may just go straight to the plastX. We'll see. Plenty of time and space to experiment.
Should do some before and after shots for comparison DaveB.
 

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I did.

My camera sucks and I suck at using it, though, so they're really not all that useful. I can't capture the haze on film. There are pics in my thread (where I feel like I'm just talking to myself most of the time) of before and after what I did yesterday. Not all that revealing on the after, though.
 

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DaveB;4605821; said:
I did.

My camera sucks and I suck at using it, though, so they're really not all that useful. I can't capture the haze on film. There are pics in my thread (where I feel like I'm just talking to myself most of the time) of before and after what I did yesterday. Not all that revealing on the after, though.

Ah. Well perhaps Sponger might prove more successful in the comparison.


Still waiting on the stand pics. Really curious.
 

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as dave b pointed out, it kinda is hard to capture haze in a shot. Unless you know how to take pictures. lol. Whiiiiiiiich, i dont. I just went over the whole inside again with a wool attachment and the plastx. I dont think i am gonna pick up the 3m compound. Im not gonna put a polish to the inside as i really dont want to keep adding chemicals to the inside of the tank. But for the front outside and the side with the returns i will polish it out.

NOW FOR UPDATES:
As some may remember, we were gonna go with a 2" box frame stand, but the guy is old and retired and seemed lazy to really want to build it. NO WORRIES, ill build my own then out of wood and save myself $650 :headbang2:headbang2 look out ultima II filter!
I went and bought all the wood and it ended up costing around $120 or so. 11- 2x4x10, 3- 2x4x8, 2- 4x8 sheets of plywood 1/2", 5- 2x4 sheets of 1/2" styrofoam also picked up 2 boxes of nails, and 2 gorilla glue bottles.

we had lowes cut the wood for us, seeing as how were in an apartment and cant be to noisy.
here is a quick put together:










SOOOOOOOOO, the stand is off. not by alot, but it is off. the front is lined up but the back right corner is off the stand. LESSON!!!!!!!!!!!! cut the wood yourself, and dont put a stand together on carpet
. :screwy::screwy::screwy::banhim: Its still gonna work, and were gonna fix it eventually when we skin it. So there are the updates for today. enjoy.
 

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Very nicely done. No waste of material/colossal overbuild.

I guess it wouldn't hurt to put one more vertical support in the end next to the sump, but even that is probably not necessary.

Actually, given the size involved with everything, I might suggest centering the sump. If there's some sort of issue with the plumbing, it probably would be a good thing to be able to get behind it. Or just put it in the front half.
 
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