Can anyone tell the gender of my vieja fish ( red spotted gutalattas)

[dhanesh]

 

[Abominus]

First of all, welcome to MFK!
Second, you have to vent the cichlid in order to find its gender
@Deadeye
@danotaylor

 

[Deadeye]

Welcome to the forum!
I don’t know Vieja too well, but with any cichlid you can’t go wrong with venting. @duanes will definitely be the authority on this.

 

[danotaylor]

Pretty fish. Vieja get big so it’s too early to know accurately from body shape & color. If you can catch the fish and get a clear picture of the vent we can help.
Vent basics are;
oo = male, with the 2nd hole being slightly triangulated.
oO = female
Let’s see some pics!

 

[dhanesh]

Pretty fish. Vieja get big so it’s too early to know accurately from body shape & color. If you can catch the fish and get a clear picture of the vent we can help.
Vent basics are;
oo = male, with the 2nd hole being slightly triangulated.
oO = female
Let’s see some pics!

Oh really can we find it by seeing it's vent on this size

 

[danotaylor]

Oh really can we find it by seeing it's vent on this size

It’s worth a shot. Like I said, see if you can get a clear pic and post it here

 

[dhanesh]

It’s worth a shot. Like I said, see if you can get a clear pic and post it here

I'm thankful for your respond dude , I'll try to take a clear shot of it's vent . Apart from that the black spots on its dorsal fins ... , I mean is that a concern of being a female dude

 

[danotaylor]

I know some CA cichlid females develop black markings into the dorsal fin. As for Vieja I am not certain of that characteristic mate.
Any Vieja experts in the community know the answer to this question?
Let’s see those crisp clear vent pics

 

[dhanesh]

I'm thankful for your respond dude , I'll try to take a clear shot of it's vent . Apart from that the black spots on its dorsal fins ... , I mean is that a concern of being a female dude

I know some CA cichlid females develop black markings into the dorsal fin. As for Vieja I am not certain of that characteristic mate.
Any Vieja experts in the community know the answer to this question?
Let’s see those crisp clear vent pics

Bruh I catched the fish but the view is not clear on its vent , nothing is noticable. But I had seen a very small pointed needle close to the below fin ,is this helpful to make a guess

 

[dhanesh]

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Now I'm seeing a pointed needle close to the bottom fin , can anyone try to guess the gender by this