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OK I have got the bouncing part figured out. Now the overflow works wonderful, is quiet, and maintains the water level without bouncing. Heres some pics. Keep in mind this was just a quicky rig so the finished system is yet finished. Basically by adding a length of air hose, right at the top of the intake, the air taken into the overflow is controlled and eliminates the bouncing effect. The pics are of a 1-1/2 inch pvc overflow. You can see the blue air hose pulling air in on one pic. By the way this size overflow rocks. The pump in the pic is pushing 1100 gph at that head and the overflow has no trouble keeping up. Basically this solution is like the stockman or durso standpipe modifaction. My next step is to create stockman adapter and see if this works as well as my rig here. By the way this can be made as a top surface overflow or a overflow that pulls from lower in the tank. As I finish the working one I will post pics. Hope this is helpful.


 

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Has anyone else every tried the stockman on this type of overflow? How was the results? Thanks, Jason
 

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CHOMPERS said:
Since you will be moving a lot of water it will be wise to use two. There is safety in redundancy. Just ask my wet carpet...

edit: I was agreeing with rally but was not aware of issues with larger piping...don't see why though
IRoman;479254; said:
Okay I was looking through this again, Why would I need two of them? If the power shuts off? 1 wouldnt flow enough?
I haven’t been keeping up with this thread. It has evolved to where we need several new ones to keep up with who is doing what. Anyway, to answer the question of two overflows (if someone didn’t already answer) is in the event one gets plugged. Death is a part of the cycle of life, and fish are going to…well…die. And floaters will float to where? Yes, to the intake tube and plugging it. If you have a wife, landlord, or parents …and you want to keep your fish tank…then it is wise to have two overflows.
 

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Someone once told me that if you choke down the output, you can actually increase the flow rate, stablize it & elliminate the bounce.
I have not tried that yet..

Also, is that cap sealed?
 

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Lil_Stinker;556552; said:
...Also, is that cap sealed?
Yeah, I meant to mention that. Ditch the cap, you don't want to re-invent the wheel.

If gurgling is an issue, add a ball valve to the exit of the overflow. By adjusting this to just the point where gurgling stops, the flow in the hose to the sump will be tuned exactly to the maximum flow of the overflow.
 

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Jawbone;556043; said:
Has anyone else every tried the stockman on this type of overflow? How was the results? Thanks, Jason
What exactly is a stockman? I think I understand the principle that you are trying to accomplish. Capillary action still has some effect in tubes as small as airline, so this can be a draw back to the design. Exellent thinking though. You win the CHOMPERS innovation award :thumbsup:

I have an alternative design somewhere that solves the air problem. If I can not find the pictures, I'll take new ones to post.
 

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Lil_Stinker;556552; said:
Someone once told me that if you choke down the output, you can actually increase the flow rate, stablize it & elliminate the bounce.
I have not tried that yet..

Also, is that cap sealed?
No the cap is not sealed theres a 1/8 in hole in it. I tried chocking down the overflow, it did effect the bounce but it just seemed to slow it down. Plus I'm not real sold on restricting the overflow. Basically by allowing a controlled amount of air in I'm trying to control the siphon almost tuning it. By the way I've been able to tune the overflow this way to flow up to 1475 gph with 1-1/2 in pvc. Now I just need to figure a way to put it together with the air adjustment in place. But I think I got that figured out. One note because I've built several of these in different pvc sizes I've noticed if your flow is about 1/2 or less of max flow for overflow the bouncing really isnt a factor as air is not really pulled into the intake to cause the siphon flucuating.
 

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CHOMPERS;556571; said:
What exactly is a stockman? I think I understand the principle that you are trying to accomplish. Capillary action still has some effect in tubes as small as airline, so this can be a draw back to the design. Exellent thinking though. You win the CHOMPERS innovation award :thumbsup:

I have an alternative design somewhere that solves the air problem. If I can not find the pictures, I'll take new ones to post.
Yeah I won an award!!:D Seriously though I think my idea is doable. Basically I'm trying to tune the siphon not cut out the noise. Mine is already very quiet and I'm running over 1000 gph threw it. The stockman is an modification to add to bulkheaded overflows in reef tanks. Basically and add on similar to what I'm trying to accomplish where you can tune the siphon by controlling the air in the overflow thus eliminating the flushing or bouncing effect. Its very similar to a Durso standpipe. I love playing with DIY stuff!!:grinno:
 

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Jawbone;556618; said:
... I've noticed if your flow is about 1/2 or less of max flow for overflow the bouncing really isnt a factor as air is not really pulled into the intake to cause the siphon flucuating.
That simplifies things
 
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