If it was relatively simple, we'd have seen a bounty of threads from members showing off their shiny new permits. The only 'hobbyist' permit I've heard of in the last decade was to someone who turned it down. A regular writer for TFH magazine wrote an article back in 2007 about his dealings with asian aros. He was asked to hold 5 asian aros for a federal court smuggling case. He kept them for almost 2 years with bench directions to not allow the aros to breed while in holding. After the case was finished, the federal judge offered him permission to keep the aros provided he did not sell them, give them away, or allow them to breed. He would also have to follow the requirements of an institutional permit. He turned down the offer due to the expenses involved and zero prospects of any financial return from keeping the aros.
HOLY GRAIL!!
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Might be the stupidest question, but how about cross-breeds between legal and asian arowanas? bred in Asia, then imported to the US? pardon me, but my knowledge in aros (and the laws) are in the negative range. Just thought i'd ask. My ultimate satisfaction would be to see the people around the world would be able to have access to these restricted species. Might be able to get it out of the CITES list also in the long run..?
Indeed.
If I recall correctly, the Australian Scleropages are divergent from their common ancestor with the Asian varieties by something like 160 million years. So even in spite of their similarities in morphology, they're not very closely related genetically. It's been a while since I've read up on this though, so I may be wrong. I'm sure Oddball will straighten me out if I am.
Again, pardon for my lack of knowledge, but we all know reds & golden cross breeds has produced the Tong Yan speciment.. i don't know, but is it entirely impossible to cross breed, maybe a jar and a golden....? Understood that Australian Scleropages are divergent from their Asian counterparts, as what Chicxulub mentioned, (the tail and fins are very similiar), so are we looking at a 0.0001% chance of success?
The chances of getting any Australian to successfully breed with an Asian is nil. They're just too divergent. The last time they shared a common ancestor was in the Jurassic period.
Reds and Golds can breed easily. They're both Scleropages formosus. It just like breeding a basset hound with a German shepherd. They look very different, but they're still the same species: Canis lupus familiaris. Some people have proposed ideas that they're separate species, but it didn't really pass the rigor of peer review.
I think that many people still can find a way to smuggle in Asian arowanas and they never have and never will get caught there are ways to smuggle them in or something like that and I beleive people keep them, often times without a hitch .once at my old lfs a man brought in a bucket with what appeared to be a small Asian arowana because he needed to get rid of it the lfs manager quickly escorted the man out and told him to leave I am not 100% SURE it was an Asian arowana but I am inclined to beleive so. This is why I think people do it and it can be done not saying its right or legit just budding in on the conversation and sharing my thoughts and experiences
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what it's going to become is an inspiration for FWC to search this guys house... and monitor people more closely
