HOLY GRAIL!!

[BuffaloPolypteridae]

Why the ban? Two words: "American bureaucracy".

Wow that really sucks. I never really wanted one of these guys, i feel like id drop that kind of money on some giant bichirs. If they are in fact endangered in the wild why aren't all these farms introducing some stock back in?

My mom is applying to the FWC for a permit for snakeheads, I showed her a pic of a rainbow snakehead and she wants one in a tank in the office of her embroidery company haha. I'll have to start a thread to share how this goes. I can become an employee of the company so I'll be able to take care of the thing if it goes through

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[cmsbthebest]

Wow that really sucks. I never really wanted one of these guys, i feel like id drop that kind of money on some giant bichirs. If they are in fact endangered in the wild why aren't all these farms introducing some stock back in?

My mom is applying to the FWC for a permit for snakeheads, I showed her a pic of a rainbow snakehead and she wants one in a tank in the office of her embroidery company haha. I'll have to start a thread to share how this goes. I can become an employee of the company so I'll be able to take care of the thing if it goes through

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I highly doubt that will be successful. Snakeheads are a whole different beast.

 

[lix.ma14]

Wow that really sucks. I never really wanted one of these guys, i feel like id drop that kind of money on some giant bichirs. If they are in fact endangered in the wild why aren't all these farms introducing some stock back in?

My mom is applying to the FWC for a permit for snakeheads, I showed her a pic of a rainbow snakehead and she wants one in a tank in the office of her embroidery company haha. I'll have to start a thread to share how this goes. I can become an employee of the company so I'll be able to take care of the thing if it goes through

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snakeheads are an entirely different story: Invasive species.

 

[baconmeupscotty]

I highly doubt that will be successful. Snakeheads are a whole different beast.

Hope springs eternal man. I would pay a LOT of $$$ and jump through a bunch of hoops to get my hands on one; that's my holy grail. But I won't do it illegally so I guess I'll never have one

 

[datboyhieu]

we do have regular bowfin and bullseye snakehead down here in nola i caught one buttttt didnt get to land him =(

 

[Oddball]

There are no hobbyist permits for either asian aros or SHs. Asian aros are federally banned because their inclusion in CITES also makes them fall under the US umbrella of the Endangered Species Act and the Lacey Act. SHs are federally banned due to being a prolific invasive species listed as detrimental to native species and biotopes.

 

[Chicxulub]

Wow that really sucks. I never really wanted one of these guys, i feel like id drop that kind of money on some giant bichirs. If they are in fact endangered in the wild why aren't all these farms introducing some stock back in?

My mom is applying to the FWC for a permit for snakeheads, I showed her a pic of a rainbow snakehead and she wants one in a tank in the office of her embroidery company haha. I'll have to start a thread to share how this goes. I can become an employee of the company so I'll be able to take care of the thing if it goes through

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Don't get your hopes up. Unless you can justify a legitimate scientific need to have one, you're not likely to get it. Applying for a permit is one thing, but getting it is another. The FWC won't give it to you because you asked nicely, they'll make you justify why you need to have it. The FWC has a tendency to arbitrarily decide which species on their lists they wish to allow permits for. Asian aros and snakeheads are two species that are essentially blacklisted. Falconers run into a similar problem. Golden eagles and peregrine falcons are, under United States law, entirely legal to use for falconry with a permit from the FWC. The FWC, however, simply refuses to issue those permits.

Trying to get something from an American alphabet agency is like being a dog who is chasing a parked car but somehow can't catch it. In other words, it's confusing, frustrating and doesn't make any sense.

 

[BuffaloPolypteridae]

Don't get your hopes up. Unless you can justify a legitimate scientific need to have one, you're not likely to get it. Applying for a permit is one thing, but getting it is another. The FWC won't give it to you because you asked nicely, they'll make you justify why you need to have it. The FWC has a tendency to arbitrarily decide which species on their lists they wish to allow permits for. Asian aros and snakeheads are two species that are essentially blacklisted. Falconers run into a similar problem. Golden eagles and peregrine falcons are, under United States law, entirely legal to use for falconry with a permit from the FWC. The FWC, however, simply refuses to issue those permits.

Trying to get something from an American alphabet agency is like being a dog who is chasing a parked car but somehow can't catch it. In other words, it's confusing, frustrating and doesn't make any sense.

Oh yeah I understand that, trust me rob I know the game when it comes to bureaucracy of this country. Damn I wanted to start falconery too haha when I moved out, always been very interested in it. I'm not expecting the fwc to give it to her just for display purposes, but maybe pirahna, some purple spilo would be great, she likes those too. Its pretty funny, when I got into the monsters she hated them but now she likes them to the point of asking me how mine are daily haha.

I've had an idea for a while to educate people on invasive specie, an essentially all invasive specie aquarium, setup like any other. Surely if I do go down that road they would approve, but then again who knows with those people!

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[Oddball]

The only permit applications that may be considered are those with a research plan and grant from an accredited institution. The plan must describe the nature of the research and theories of the possible findings at the outcome of the research. The research facility (also must be accredited) must be inspected for potential risks of escape of the study animal (and/or it's reproductive components (eggs/milt)). The facility will also be inspected to ensure it meets the minimum husbandry requirements of the animal(s). The husbandry includes the vessel the animal is to be maintained in, filtration, water treatment, test equipment, food storage and prep, documentation requirements, and prep/storage of test/progeny losses. That's alot of investment in a setup for anything that hasn't been approved of yet. The inspections are not free. The facility must agree to periodic and surprise inspections (also not free) during the year of the permit period. Permits are not free and may ony be renewed with agency approval after review of the research material. If the permit is not renewed, agency officers will present themselves to seize and dispose of the research animal(s).

There's quite a bit more but, this is the short list to give you an idea of the difficulty in obtaining a permit for a federally banned species.

 

[krichardson]

Bragging about your illegally kept Asian arowana while you're posting from Slidell, Louisiana isn't the best idea on a website that is routinely prowled by FWS officers. The furlough won't last forever.

LOL!