I know! He’s the one who inspired me to line breed to get my red points as blue as possible. He has some of the most beautiful lines I’ve seen. I think he has 2 lines he’s working with. He got his male from rusty wessel and his female from Ken Davis, and he said he paid ken an extra $20 to get the bluest fish for him opposed to just waving a net around in the tank to catch any old fish.These are so nice especially the male in the middle?