Hey, I'm trying. I'm going to see about getting a few from the same guy Lep is getting a few from, but looking at how that has been going for him with them dieing during shipping my odds don't see to be very good. I also have been fishing a lot more frequently with baits that have been recommended for catching gar, but no luck yet; I contacted the PA Fish Commission to make sure I'm not wasting my time trying to fish for them and was told that there is a strong population were I'm fishing for them.