Mega Powerful Nitrate and Phosphate Remover - DIY!

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Jack Dempsey
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i didnt want to ready the 100+ page thread, but doesnt algae release a poison to fish?
 

Judon

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Algae provides alot of the trace minerals, carbohydrates, and all sorts of other stuff to the water column. The "circle of life" or "food chain" or "food pyramid" whatever you want to call it, starts out with life forms of this size and nature. They are the building blocks of more complex life. If the goal of your aquarium keeping is to simulate a natural body of water, adding a large volume of algae (in a controlled way such as ATS or refugium) is a great idea for higher/ more complex life forms to live as naturally as possible and have micro nutrients that we as human researchers might presently undervalue, thus not provide.
 

Accident

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I totally agree. Trace minerals and elements are very important to all life forms. I take them every day.
 

Jgray152

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Do I need a Refugium if I have an algea scrubber?
 

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I read you need 35 GPH per inch width. If im running one side, would this get divided by 2? so it would be more like 17-18 GPH per inch of width? Wanting to build one for a reef tank I hope to setup soon
 

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doesnt algae release a poison to fish?
No, you are thinking of "red tide", where a large amount of nutrients run-off of land and are absorbed by the algae.

Do I need a Refugium if I have an algea scrubber?
If your refugium is to remove nutrients, then no. If it is to grow pods, then yes, using rock rubble.

I read you need 35 GPH per inch width. If im running one side, would this get divided by 2?
No, still 35.

need a big space for those big sheets for the algae to grow.
It should not really be that big. The new size guidelines are much smaller:

Scrubbers are now sized according to feeding. Nutrients "in" (feeding) must equal nutrients "out" (scrubber growth), no matter how many gallons you have. So...

An example VERTICAL waterfall screen size is 3 X 4 inches = 12 square inches of screen (7.5 X 10 cm = 75 sq cm) with a total of 12 real watts (not equivalent) of fluorescent light for 18 hours a day. If all 12 watts are on one side, it is a 1-sided screen. If 6 watts are on each side, it is a 2-sided screen, but the total is still 12 watts for 18 hours a day. This screen size and wattage should be able to handle the following amounts of daily feeding:

1 frozen cube per day (2-sided screen), or
1/2 frozen cube per day (1-sided screen), or
10 pinches of flake food per day (2-sided screen), or
5 pinches of flake food per day (1-sided screen), or
10 square inches (60 sq cm) of nori per day (2-sided screen), or
5 square inches (30 sq cm) of nori per day (1-sided screen), or
0.1 dry ounce (2.8 grams) of pellet food per day (2-sided screen), or
0.05 dry ounce (1.4 grams) of pellet food per day (1-sided screen)

High-wattage technique: Double the wattage, and cut the hours in half (to 9 per day). This will get brown screens to grow green much faster. Thus the example above would be 12 watts on each side, for a total of 24 watts, but for only 9 hours per day. If growth starts to turn YELLOW, then increase the flow, or add iron, or reduce the number of hours. And since the bulbs are operating for 9 hours instead of 18, they will last 6 months instead of 3 months.

HORIZONTAL screens: Multiply the screen size by 4, and the wattage by 1.5Flow is 24 hours, and is at least 35 gph per inch of width of screen [60 lph per cm], EVEN IF one sided or horizontal.

Very rough screen made of roughed-up-like-a-cactus plastic canvas.

Clean algae off of screen every 7 to 14 days, so that you can see the white screen material.
 

Judon

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***And since the bulbs are operating for 9 hours instead of 18, they will last 6 months instead of 3 months.***

:)

**Bulbs** Hahahahaa ahahaha Bulbs! ha haahah
 
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