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The US is a country of immigrants. We are all immigrants, or the children of immigrants. (except for the native peoples, but they are far from a majority.)
Hello; This statement has some kernels of truth to it but the imagined expanse is a bit too broad. I am not an immigrant. Nor were my parents, my grandparents, my great grandparents and so on back a ways. I know there will be a first or two immigrant somewhere a ways back.
As you said the native peoples were here before the Europeans came along 1n the 1400's. However some think the native people are thought to have migrated from Europe during an ice age. The later Europeans took the place away from the "native peoples'.
The point I am getting at is enough time has past (over two hundred years) since the founding of the country so that we can have a culture of our own. A culture that those who come here at this much later date need to acclimate themselves to.

In order to assimilate people into our culture, we must accept part of theirs.
Hello; Continuing on with my above comments. I call BS on the idea that those of us well established in this country MUST accept the social norms of late comers.
An example; say I go to a country where "honor killings", stoning death for adultery, female circumcision are the norm. Should I expect to have them change those practices because I have different points of view. I say no. If a country has a language different from mine or practices different from mine and I do not want to go with their flow then I should stay away.

something you must think about when yelling about your fear of Islam
Hello; Again I call a bit of BS on this I MUST think about assimilating a foreign culture into my own stuff. No I do not have to accommodate any such thing. It may not be playing fair by some standard you have dreamed up but it is not a must do on my list.
 
respect it? yes. live by it in my own house or what I do day to day, no. do as you will, live and let live as long as in the boundries(sp) of the law. But to think I need to change to accommodate you is ridiculous.
 
I get the language thing in class but why would American kids need to sit through a class teaching how to speak English. If I move to France I doubt they hold classes on how to speak French in grade school

Those classes are for those learning English hence why it’s called a English Second Language class.
 
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I've seen plenty of that here too.It's kind of disrespectful but on the other hand this country is so accomodating.One couldnt do that someplace else.

How is it disrespectful? Why would someone not be able to do that in another country like France?
 
I get all of that but isn't that just a more politically correct way of saying ban or restrictions.



BUT Trump did not impose a blanket ban. It's was 8 countries where are you hearing of a blanket ban from MSNBC?


Just last night there was a report of a refugee with isis ties. I will post the link later if you like

It is a complete blanket ban on the 8 counties effected.thats what I meant by blanket ban. Later this month, the Supreme Court will hear Hawaii versus trump which will decide if this ban is legal or not. https://www.oyez.org/cases/2017/17-965
 
Look at it like this. Youre nice enough to let me live with you since my other living situation sucks. Now am i suppose to make you speak my language, eat the food I like, and accommodate me in every way.....or am I suppose to be greatful and abide by your rules?

Please answer honestly?

Illegals take food out of our mouth and money out of our pocket. You want to live the dream come on board and get to work. Too many people with their hand out and not enough chipping in.
 
Lol, you guys see fat ass j-lo get caught trying to engineer some outrage with a fake photo?

Dude that's so jacked up. I watch her on world of dance she preaches Latino this Latino that. Now if I got up there and did the same with my nationality she would be all over me for racism. That's what I don't like the hypocrisy. If we're going to do it do then let's do it all the way.
 
Dude that's so jacked up. I watch her on world of dance she preaches Latino this Latino that. Now if I got up there and did the same with my nationality she would be all over me for racism. That's what I don't like the hypocrisy. If we're going to do it do then let's do it all the way.

Ridiculous. It's a total fraud.
 
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The US is a country of immigrants. We are all immigrants, or the children of immigrants. (except for the native peoples, but they are far from a majority.) France is a bigoted, corrupt European country. The US is supposed to be BETTER than France in every way. The US is, and hopefully will remain, the world's best country. Even if we stop being the most powerful, we should never stop being the best.
BTW, assimilation is a 2 way street. In order to assimilate people into our culture, we must accept part of theirs. This is why the US's culture is more diverse than that of any other's, and it something you must think about when yelling about your fear of Islam. I am not saying there is nothing to be afraid of, but the refugees are coming here looking for a better place, not to stay in their bloodthirsty homeland. The Cossacks who came to the US 100yrs. ago assimilated with no issues, and they were born & bred thieves, murderers, warriors & rapists - that's all their culture was about - kid is born, forge him a sword style of thing. The people who choose to leave their country and make a better life in the US are probably among the best of the people of their country, and show, just by coming here, that they want our culture. Let them blend in and share as they can.

Those classes are for those learning English hence why it’s called a English Second Language class.


No you putting American children through an English class that is teaching them how to speak it because the majority of their schoolmates CANNOT speak it is dead wrong. Their parents should have been forced to learn our language and pass it on to their children along with whatever language they spoke in their country of origin.

It is a complete blanket ban on the 8 counties effected.thats what I meant by blanket ban. Later this month, the Supreme Court will hear Hawaii versus trump which will decide if this ban is legal or not. https://www.oyez.org/cases/2017/17-965

Dude if I can admit wording something wrong then so should you if not then this is a pointless discussion. 1st you said a blanket ban on the mid East now you say its blanket ban on just those 8 countries. Stop playing with your words.

And if I'm correct didn't Obama issue a similar ban ? Mhhhh
 
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