Official Off Topic Discussion Thread #1

[jaws7777]

Jimmy Carter did not ban Iranian immigration like you are proposing. He didn't allow new visas from Iran other than "for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires" . This was until the hostages taken in the overthrow of the Shah were released.

This can not be compared to a complete blanket ban on the middle east. Carter had a well defined end/goal. I am not sure what HIV positive persons have to do with banning people from becoming citizens because of their national origin. Who is "Oshama"? I don't think that banning people based on their religion and ideology helped the war effort.




Yes, they are very effective. I'm not sure what your issue with the vetting process is. Could you specify? A terrorist could sneak in, but the vetting process makes it very unlikely.

I get all of that but isn't that just a more politically correct way of saying ban or restrictions.

"for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires" . This was until the hostages taken in the overthrow of the Shah were released.

Right and we backed the Sha so we waited until "where the national interest of our own country requires" or basically beneficial to us. I was just making a point the the president and the fed have right to restrict immigration in times of conflict.

I should not have used the word ban, that was incorrect

BUT Trump did not impose a blanket ban. It's was 8 countries where are you hearing of a blanket ban from MSNBC?


Just last night there was a report of a refugee with isis ties. I will post the link later if you like

 

[jaws7777]

I get the language thing in class but why would American kids need to sit through a class teaching how to speak English. If I move to France I doubt they hold classes on how to speak French in grade school

 

[jaws7777]

Let's look at legal immigration on simple terms country A holds Rally's we're they chant death to country B. Country B should take in immigrants from country A ?

Who thinks this is a good idea ?

 

[krichardson]

I get the language thing in class but why would American kids need to sit through a class teaching how to speak English. If I move to France I doubt they hold classes on how to speak French in grade school

I'm with you on that,American kids should not have to waste time in such classes,they should only be for the kids who don't know the language.
From what I have heard you don't have to go all the way to France as in some parts of Canada people ignore you if you dont speak French....compare that to here where in some places you can walk down a street and all the signs are in another language.

 

[jaws7777]

I'm with you on that,American kids should not have to waste time in such classes,they should only be for the kids who don't know the language.
From what I have heard you don't have to go all the way to France as in some parts of Canada people ignore you if you dont speak French....compare that here where in some places you can walk down a street and all the signs are in another language.

Almost all of the store fronts where I grew up in Brooklyn are in different languages

 

[krichardson]

Almost all of the store fronts where I grew up in Brooklyn are in different languages

I've seen plenty of that here too.It's kind of disrespectful but on the other hand this country is so accomodating.One couldnt do that someplace else.

 

[J. H.]

I'm with you on that,American kids should not have to waste time in such classes,they should only be for the kids who don't know the language.
From what I have heard you don't have to go all the way to France as in some parts of Canada people ignore you if you dont speak French....compare that to here where in some places you can walk down a street and all the signs are in another language.

Almost all of the store fronts where I grew up in Brooklyn are in different languages

The US is a country of immigrants. We are all immigrants, or the children of immigrants. (except for the native peoples, but they are far from a majority.) France is a bigoted, corrupt European country. The US is supposed to be BETTER than France in every way. The US is, and hopefully will remain, the world's best country. Even if we stop being the most powerful, we should never stop being the best.
BTW, assimilation is a 2 way street. In order to assimilate people into our culture, we must accept part of theirs. This is why the US's culture is more diverse than that of any other's, and it something you must think about when yelling about your fear of Islam. I am not saying there is nothing to be afraid of, but the refugees are coming here looking for a better place, not to stay in their bloodthirsty homeland. The Cossacks who came to the US 100yrs. ago assimilated with no issues, and they were born & bred thieves, murderers, warriors & rapists - that's all their culture was about - kid is born, forge him a sword style of thing. The people who choose to leave their country and make a better life in the US are probably among the best of the people of their country, and show, just by coming here, that they want our culture. Let them blend in and share as they can.

 

[Warborg]

The people who choose to leave their country and make a better life in the US are probably among the best of the people of their country, and show, just by coming here, that they want our culture. Let them blend in and share as they can.

The problem is they want to convert our Country to their ways.

 

[krichardson]

The problem is they want to convert our Country to convert our country to their ways.

France and Germany seem to be having quite a time these days.

 

[Kris P Bacon]

Anyone see that video of an illegal getting back with their kid? It seems fake as the kid isn't even hugging the parent. The kid is like who are you?

Would be interesting to do a DNA test on all these "parents" seeking asylum. When it is found to be untrue, charge them with felony immigration fraud.