Races of Jaguar cichlid

mbunafishkeeper

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jag123;2097507; said:
From what I've read there is a Northern and Southern morph.

Northern: Highly speckeld w/smaller spots all over body.

Southern: Lightly speckled w/large rosettes/spots on body.

The shape of the fish may also differ - I've seen some males that are absolute brutes - very stocky and short-faced. And I'v seen some males like yours that is more streamlined.

I would hazard a guess at yours being Southern morph. More accurately, Central America.
ive not heard this, although i think the shape difference is just down to genetics..
 

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mbunafishkeeper;2097509; said:
ive not heard this, although i think the shape difference is just down to genetics..
Yes - you're absolutely right. The two morphs are able to interbreed, but there almost certainly is some genetic drift between ones in Mexico and individuals in the Central American corridor. Just look at Aquamojo's old boy(RIP) he is definetly a Northern morph. these pair will probably never grow to that state.
 

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mbunafishkeeper;2097504; said:
thats not true, shane bought the male when it was like 11-12" the xanthic only comes out in fish when they reach maturity (i think) so around 5-6" shane bought the jag off of some women who had him in a 7x1x2 tank in with arows and other stuff, when he picked him up, the xanthic was in a bad state and nearly dead, if it wasnt for shane, the xanthic would have died over a year ago. shane brought the jag back and after a few months of effort and TLC the jag started turning into what he is now.

also i think everyone will agree, the best bet of getting xanthics is if bluejax sells his female to me..
Shame bought it at 7"+, i remember seeing the thread, i have found his threads when he first picked it up but the pics have been removed....
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51050
 

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davidefc;2097562; said:
Shame bought it at 7"+, i remember seeing the thread, i have found his threads when he first picked it up but the pics have been removed....
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51050
also if you read that thread mojo concluded that fish is possible hybrid.

I shared the photos with Rusty Wessel. He said that the fish looks like a cross between the two fish that were mentioned here...P. Splendida and Managuense. He said that Fredrichsthali do cross with Petina...so the possiblity of Managuense crossing with Petina exists.
:popcorn:
 

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fishfreak317;2097646; said:
also if you read that thread mojo concluded that fish is possible hybrid.



:popcorn:
its 100% jaguar
 

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fishfreak317;2097646; said:
also if you read that thread mojo concluded that fish is possible hybrid.



:popcorn:
if we are going to call on people and what they say "ODDBALL" says it is no mutt.

and to me if you look at the pics in black/white it is a Jag ;)
 

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bolty;2098127; said:
This was the Jag befor I got it
its bigger then 7" there right??
 

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fishfreak317;2097384; said:
i am not familiar with locals of certain breeds of jags. however the way i understand it is the xanthic is something the fish is born with and shows from birth. meaning it doesn't go through a "fade" or "peel" to achieve this coloration.

please don't take this as fact. this is just how i understood these xanthic cichlids work.
Xanthic is not always there from the start.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67212
 
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