The 12fter IS HERE!!!!!!!!!

Conner

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The1and only;4006456; said:
I suggested this if he did not want to go standpipe, not ideal but best given the situation.

Ring clamps are good but cannot be torqued to the levels these can.
I also say these are better because when I owned my RX-7 these where the only style clamps that would hold the boost pipes together. Ring clamps would just blow off at anything above 10psi boost.
Ah. We mostly deal with vacuum applications, not high pressure applications. For us, ring clamps work very well, and are cheaper. And I get enough torque to cut through most of the tubing types that we use at work if I take them too far.


But for the OP, any kind of metal clamp will do, as long as its used out of water. For under water, I guess you could try zip ties, but I'd be ready just in case they failed (I personally would not trust zip ties in this situation. They fail too easily under stress for me).
 

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Conner;4006643; said:
Ah. We mostly deal with vacuum applications, not high pressure applications. For us, ring clamps work very well, and are cheaper. And I get enough torque to cut through most of the tubing types that we use at work if I take them too far.


But for the OP, any kind of metal clamp will do, as long as its used out of water. For under water, I guess you could try zip ties, but I'd be ready just in case they failed (I personally would not trust zip ties in this situation. They fail too easily under stress for me).
Agreed 100%. PVC is a really easy thing to do once you get the hang of it I highly suggest doing so !

If the HD staff can do it so can you! :D
 

TheCanuck

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Ocean Blue;4006484; said:
Nice tank. Had a BB grouper that was a store pet. His was was HAM. You can see him on MFK's youtube video. As for your plumbing, you should never use any metal in your tank. For hose, strong zip ties works like a charm. But, make sure that they don't have metal stopper on the zip ties. I was wondering why you did'nt order the tank with a built in overflow? Are you going to be using a protein skimmer on this tank? Scrubbies alone is not going to be enough. I see that you are using a Marineland skimmer. I would say that it will only be very marginally effective at best. A good protein skimmer is a must have on a tank that's going to see a lot of bio load. Don't buy ASM, Aqua C or Red Sea C skim. For moderate price I would recommend at least an Aqua Euro 400 or better yet a SWC 250ia is a fantastic piece but this will run about $900. Vertex Alpha, ATB, BK are some other brands but are very costly. I did not see what kind of pump you are using to return water back into you tank but you don't necessarily need a very big one. A pump 1500gph pump is more than enough. What you really need is a prodigeous amount of water movement inside the tank. Ten or more times turnover will be good. I would also recommend using a lot of carbon. In your case 1 to 1.5 lbs per 100gal. You can use one of the FX5 as a carbon filter. It will help with water quality and cut down on the smell and increase water clearity. Good luck on your super tanker!
Hey thanks for the long write up.

My skimmer works fine, i know its not super tech but it works. I plan on keeping it and also adding an algae scrubber, the scrubber would eliminate a skimmer so its just there for extra removal.

As for the scrubbies, 75 ran my 210 with all these fish in there. I now have WAY more than that now. I also have 10 gallons of bio bale. Not to mention an fx5 with 6L of biomax. The filter sock will be polishing the water for clearity. I hate carbon and don't run it unless needed.

My return pump is pushing 3200gph at head loss and after everything i have added it up to being 2300gph and my pvc overflow is pushing 2400gph.

I think my filtration is way overkill, but i like your suggestion of needing more. You can never have enough filtration. Though with scrubby count i am double my cubic inches per water volume. My turn over rate with power heads and pumps/canisters should be over 12x turn over rate all said and done.

I might add carbon just in the beginning but i quit using that stuff as it has no use when you have enough skimming, bio, and scrubbing going on. I find it a waste of money and it makes a mess.:(
 

TheCanuck

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tcarswell;4006682; said:
Agreed 100%. PVC is a really easy thing to do once you get the hang of it I highly suggest doing so !

If the HD staff can do it so can you! :D
Haha thanks man, i will be making a trip to home depot, still not sure which route i will take but those dam hoses will stay on thats all i have to say!!
 

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Conner;4006643; said:
Ah. We mostly deal with vacuum applications, not high pressure applications. For us, ring clamps work very well, and are cheaper. And I get enough torque to cut through most of the tubing types that we use at work if I take them too far.


But for the OP, any kind of metal clamp will do, as long as its used out of water. For under water, I guess you could try zip ties, but I'd be ready just in case they failed (I personally would not trust zip ties in this situation. They fail too easily under stress for me).
I am worried about the zip ties as well. My lfs just said they have plastic clamps that would fit my hosing size. I will go check these out and hopefully someone can vouch for these and their durability.
 

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IsdaFish;4006464; said:
do they ship?
ah he might ship, i would have to ask him. This was his first fish tank but he has been working with acrylic for a really long time(30 years). He has done some research on tank building and this was his first tank ever built. Its rock solid and bullet proof. I recomend this guy for anyone.:headbang2
 

TheCanuck

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The1and only;4006456; said:
I suggested this if he did not want to go standpipe, not ideal but best given the situation.

Ring clamps are good but cannot be torqued to the levels these can.
I also say these are better because when I owned my RX-7 these where the only style clamps that would hold the boost pipes together. Ring clamps would just blow off at anything above 10psi boost.
The stainless steel seems like a really good idea. Thanks for the input, ill be checking out these plastic ones today. If not ill probably be doing the stand pipe with the metal rings that are stainless.
 

TheCanuck

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Conner;4006643; said:
Ah. We mostly deal with vacuum applications, not high pressure applications. For us, ring clamps work very well, and are cheaper. And I get enough torque to cut through most of the tubing types that we use at work if I take them too far.


But for the OP, any kind of metal clamp will do, as long as its used out of water. For under water, I guess you could try zip ties, but I'd be ready just in case they failed (I personally would not trust zip ties in this situation. They fail too easily under stress for me).

conner once again thanks man. :headbang2


anyone mind teaching me how to multi quote!?
 

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hit the " " button to the right of the regular quote button

do that for each post you want to quote and then for the last one hit the regular quote or hit post reply.
 

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TheCanuck;4001401; said:


Damn 6k. If I were u I would of moved out and got a glass tank built 4 times the size of yours for almost the same cost and u would of gotten yourself a 4-5ft wide tank:) Hence nice 12ft length tank.
 
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