Whale Wars: Viking Shores

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Harleydiva said:
So if we get bombed back to the stoneage can we eat whales then? Or would that be taboo trying to survive in all


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That's a good thought. During the stone age eating whale would be ok. Apparently golcondorus is promoting the increased consumption of whale in that case.

Actually it's hard to take golcondorus serious when he makes comments like that. I'm not sure how is for protection and preservation of a species if they'd support destroying everything.

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Well,one thing is for sure.If we were sent back to the stone age there would be no fleets of harpoon firing ships and floating processing plants so whichever primitive group was actually successful in kiling and beaching a whale would barely be taking a drop from the ocean.....
 
krichardson said:
Well,one thing is for sure.If we were sent back to the stone age there would be no fleets of harpoon firing ships and floating processing plants so whichever primitive group was actually successful in kiling and beaching a whale would barely be taking a drop from the ocean.....
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That's true. I'm not a supporter of whaling. I just don't think he is consistent in his moral objections.

The problem with this is there's a group of people saying another shouldn't do something. I know everyone has opinions on things. Some hard headed close minded people don't realize there isn't a right and wrong to everything. Sometimes there's 2 rights and you have to accept other people live their life in a different way. I can understand if they were harvesting these whales into extinction.

I'm not sure where everyone in this conversation is from. For the people from the USA. This is supposed to be the land of the free. If that's the case why do you feel it's ok to try and regulate everything people do?

I'm all for species conservation. As long as people aren't just killing animals to kill or driving them to extinction. People should live and let live for the most part.

How many things can you really do these days without someone trying to make you feel bad or guilty about it? That's all we as people do is judge everyone. Most of the time we don't hold ourselves to the standards we judge on.

You can't go to church or your stupid for believing. You can't eat a cheeseburger or you don't care about yourself or cows. You can't drive anything but a prius or you don't care about the environment.

Why doesn't everyone try to live the best they can. Try to spread positive information on better ways of doing things. Don't look down on people all the time, because they don't live in the predefined way you have came up with that's acceptable for humans to live.

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to aaronb (having trouble with the reply button)

America is the home of the free not the rest of the world. And with driving the animals into extinction the Japanese have proven that they will try to do so. Bluefin tuna population is dropping fast they just keep catching more, there is a little silver fish that they catch for I believe new years, they caught them darn near to extinction.
 
Lepisosteus platyrhincus said:
It IS against international law to hunt whales for meat esp on the scale they do. Plus IIRC the japanese where hunting in a whaling sanctuary. And natives here in the US kill less than 5 IIRC a year. Doesnt even compare.

But I still dislike them.
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If you know the laws on the High-Seas... you will know there are NO LAWS. A country can do almost anything they want on the High-Seas. There are some laws on the High-Seas that countries all follow, but that only concerns laws against piracy. When it comes to fishing... nothing. It is up to the countries where the ship sail from and unload their catch that needs to make laws against fishing and setting quota catches.

The IWC has no authority when it comes to whaling enforcement. The agreement that countries signed to create the IWC was NON-binding.

When it comes to fishing in the oceans, rivers, and lakes; the USA is the most regulated. If countries that fished in the oceans had half the laws that regulated fishing like the US, the oceans would be packed with fish. But just because we don't like or agree with what others are doing does not give us or the Sea Shepard or anybody the right to terrorized them.
 
Yeah, they are doing a number on those tuna.They already have hundreds of pounds of them in deep freeze and seem to keep packing more in.Maybe someone should start a TunaWatchers group?
 
Nate Dogg said:
to aaronb (having trouble with the reply button)

America is the home of the free not the rest of the world. And with driving the animals into extinction the Japanese have proven that they will try to do so. Bluefin tuna population is dropping fast they just keep catching more, there is a little silver fish that they catch for I believe new years, they caught them darn near to extinction.
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Well I looked into the type of whales they're hunting. From what I've found the population is very high to be too worried at this point. I'm not sure how they can get an accurate population estimate on them, since the oceans are so big and a lot unexplored though.

I just don't think the sea shepard is doing anything productive. Two wrongs has never made a right. I've never met anyone who thinks it's ok for people to be assaulted for wearing fur, except the crazy activists that do it.

I watched whale wars once and they were trying to get the net thing in the propeller to disable the ship. Would you be ok with someone flattening the tires on hunters vehicles? What about flattening tires on SUVs?

Last I checked PETA thinks it's inhumane to put fish in aquariums. They feel they have information that backs up their stance. In some instances they're right. You could say there is a history of fish keepers as a group not keeping fish properly and healthy. In the more recent past there's been a lot more people educated to proper fish husbandry. If someone was against fish keeping and kept trying to sabotage my attempts at keeping fish I'd be upset with them and keep doing my thing. If the tried putting good information out to educate I'd be more likely to read it and be swayed.

What happens a lot of times when there isn't good solid facts to support a stance people resort to scare tactics and harassment. For example what the sea shepard does.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be good regulation on whaling. I'm also not saying there isn't good information that shows whaling should be band. I'm just saying apparently the people on the sea shepard aren't educated in that regard. That's why they're out there doing their thing.

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I wouldn't have a problem slashing tires on a truck of people hunting an endangered animal. I would be proud to do it
 
Hell, we murdered the poachers that were killing elephants in the 90s. No one seemed opposed to that tactic


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