who has the largest florida gar?

[E_americanus]

Wow this thread keeps getting crazier and going in all kinds of directions. I just asked who has the largest FL gar lol.

Back on track......
Anyone have a FL gar larger than 21"?

i wouldn't necessarily say it's getting crazier and crazier and going in all kinds of directions...the discussion stems from your initial question and comments. IMO, the discussion that has stemmed is actually much more useful to people than the very typical "who has the biggest ______ species" threads we see in all the other forums.

one can understand just curiosity for asking such a question, but really consider why you want to know. most threads of that nature are generally useless for information; i'd like to think all of our comments with those involved with the current thread provides a much more useful discussion.

may as well say 21" and put it to rest...although xander, i'd like to hear more about that fish since you didn't raise it on your own --
--solomon

 

[E_americanus]

solomon, You may not feel my thread is useful to you but it was not intended to be. I'm just asking who has the largest FL gar plain and simple. Please no more derails.

thanks for your instruction, i'll be sure to leave the asinine threads alone next time--
--solomon

 

[E_americanus]

solomon- I can't pm you until you clear your mailbox............

done. that's thanks to xander from his forum clean-up...60+ PM-bots of moved/edited threads

 

[Polypterus]

You think a drip dont help the growth of a fish? Its been proven over and over.. Fish just take off with good clean water. Its not rocket science... Good food, Clean water, Good tank, = Good fish...

WATER CHANGES accomplish the same thing.. I never said anything about it not helping, I said there are more ways than one to skin a catfish..One does not need some fancy system. Just an attention to detail and knowledge of the species. I have used many different types of water quality systems with gar and none seem to make a cats whiskers of difference if your not following the requirements of the fish to begin with.

Honestly, I find what you think as pure 100% opinion.. But we all have out own thoughts... (ill give you that)

You believe the earth is flat and it was made in seven days don't you..? Apparently the concept of science and tested theory has escaped you as much as your reading comprehension skills which are seemingly also missing from this conversation. Try for a bit to read and comprehend what is being written before you get your sausage out and start waving it about. I can easily tell just by your defensive and avoiding response you obviously really have no real informational response that is of any value or use to anything or anyone being discussed here.

Nobody said a word about changing biology or genetics?
Whatever you say... Please read the reading comprehension thing again...Then go back and read the thread....

It seems your on a mission to change the hobbyist to think just like you.. It aint gonna happen.. You have your opinions and we have ours. I assume you can understand that?

I could care less about changing anybody. I'm just presenting tested information on the genera and species being discussed which could be of use to someone that does not have their head up their arse over the scientific reality of lepisosteids in captivity. Take it or leave it. I really could care less. I'm not about to get my panty hamster in a bunch, taking the internets too seriously, with yet another stupid arse internet argument with yet another fishy tank hobbyist that is afraid of information exchange that will wreck their fragile egos and reality.

Really it is tiring dealing with it.. In the time it took to write this I could have done a water change... Then maybe my Platyrhincus would have been 20 inches long... Oh well guess they are stunted now..

 

[Madding]

I hate to be a pest but I don't think starting a thread gives you any power over which way the direction ebbs and flows. You can ask us to quit branching off into intelligent discussion that relates directly to the OP question, but unless a moderator steps in then nobody has to.

That said, most of us here are friendly enough (and also perhaps tired enough) that we will leave the thread to revert back to where you wanted it.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

Lepisosteus platyrhincus,
Interesting that your gar grew 17" the first year but you have been very adamant that FL gar will not reach 24" in a home aquaria and 20" is difficult to obtain. It seems yours is almost there. Do you feel your gar has stopped growing in length after 1 year?

yes actually my gar has stopped adding length. It has added girth but almost no length.

my other 3 gar(2 florida and 1 shorty) are no where near his size. they were not power feed were Gary was. I can almost guarantee u that he will not obtain more than 21 or 22" and that will take years from now. I hope he achieves record size but i know he most likly wont.

ps my gar in question is actually over 2 years old now. still no larger. put on a cm or 2 at best. put on significant girth though(not obese)

pps solomon, when would Gary(or maybe a female name, lol) be sexually mature? He(or she) has to be quite close by now.

 

[E_americanus]

I hate to be a pest but I don't think starting a thread gives you any power over which way the direction ebbs and flows. You can ask us to quit branching off into intelligent discussion that relates directly to the OP question, but unless a moderator steps in then nobody has to.

That said, most of us here are friendly enough (and also perhaps tired enough) that we will leave the thread to revert back to where you wanted it.

definitely agree with the first part...and with the second at this point (relatively speaking) --
--solomon

 

[E_americanus]

yes actually my gar has stopped adding length. It has added girth but almost no length.

my other 3 gar(2 florida and 1 shorty) are no where near his size. they were not power feed were Gary was. I can almost guarantee u that he will not obtain more than 21 or 22" and that will take years from now. I hope he achieves record size but i know he most likly wont.

ps my gar in question is actually over 2 years old now. still no larger. put on a cm or 2 at best. put on significant girth though(not obese)

pps solomon, when would Gary(or maybe a female name, lol) be sexually mature? He(or she) has to be quite close by now.

thanks for providing the info Lep, was figuring that would be the case...that and those of us on forum a lot start to learn (and remember) quite a bit about each others' gars.

reGARding maturity, if it is male, then he would be mature by now (most likely)...continuous growth and food and warm temps should have the males maturing in 1-2 years, MAYBE a bit longer. if female, you are most likely looking at another year give or take. steady growth seems to speed up maturity in both sexes to some extent, but it's unclear how much it speeds up in females, especially in captive home aquaria specimens.--
--solomon

 

[BigJ]

I hate to be a pest but I don't think starting a thread gives you any power over which way the direction ebbs and flows. You can ask us to quit branching off into intelligent discussion that relates directly to the OP question, but unless a moderator steps in then nobody has to.

That said, most of us here are friendly enough (and also perhaps tired enough) that we will leave the thread to revert back to where you wanted it.

Why do you think that? Its his thread... All he wanted was just pics of other gars? We (myself aswell) jacked it up...

Im sure you would'nt want me posting links to fish/threads... In the threads you started... I do think were all supposed to stay on topic.. And we surely failed at that.. Its a fact... There is no derailment allowed on this site.. Atlest thats what the Mods say...

Sorry Kevin, for the bs my bad.

 

[Lepisosteus platyrhincus]

thanks for providing the info Lep, was figuring that would be the case...that and those of us on forum a lot start to learn (and remember) quite a bit about each others' gars.

reGARding maturity, if it is male, then he would be mature by now (most likely)...continuous growth and food and warm temps should have the males maturing in 1-2 years, MAYBE a bit longer. if female, you are most likely looking at another year give or take. steady growth seems to speed up maturity in both sexes to some extent, but it's unclear how much it speeds up in females, especially in captive home aquaria specimens.--
--solomon

thanks for the info!!!

I have no clue how to jump start it and get it to add more length. Iv upped my WC, and up'd food. also started stuffing pellets in the food. i dunno. hope something works.

oh and also i turned my heaters almost off. the room they live in are odd. the room gets hot in the summer colder in the winter. allows the gar tank temp to fluctuate almost 20 degrees throught the year. mid 80s down to mid 60s.

its interesting that its nearly sexually mature. Wonder how i could induce spawning. but thats a different topic for a different thread