whats linebred? breeding parents to their offspring? so hybrid in general isnt what causes it to have a shorter lifespan.. its the fact that they breed them over n over with the same source is what causes it, right?
Average lifespan of a flowerhorn?
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whats linebred? breeding parents to their offspring? so hybrid in general isnt what causes it to have a shorter lifespan.. its the fact that they breed them over n over with the same source is what causes it, right?
They are not saying they all die, jut a majority. As I said I know people with Kansas Thai silks and red dragons all over the 3 - 5 mark, if you treat it as a delicate fish, feed it normal food and do you normal maintenance without all the breeding there is no reason you couldn't have it living a normal 5-8 year life. People are right so to speak but if the owners do there buisness right then he average would be lowered. Do the research, speak to others and you will find the same info as me. If you want electric ble jam Dempsey you buy a group and normally you will have a few survive, treat flowerhorns the same. You could have the one in 7, if you get a older strain not the newer sorts you will have stronger genetics, speak tithe breeders make sure he uses unrelated parents, see the heritage is. If people still have doubts pm me and I will put you in touch with the people that have these fish and have had them for years.
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It's true, seriously speak to the people that keep only flowerhorns, join some forums. There's truth there but nothing that can't be avoided, there's no denying they don't live long long lives, but IMO you get it over five then youve done well. I'm not worried at all.
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Throw away any flowerhorn designed foods, get some hikari, keep your eye out for the main killers I.e white poop sunken belly, pop eye. Plan your water changes breed once a year for a few years and your already on the right path. Avoid local breeders as they prob have sibling fish, And remember, ask the questions And do the research before buying
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Just like humans. When inbreeding occurs...the clash of common genes can really effect the life span. The immunity system is really weak. You will notice the fh which are not fertile have a shorter life span.
Majority of king kamfa are not fertile. This picture is off Australia's first imported king kamfa...the owner acquired him luckily when he was very young. Disapointed to say...he is not at all fertile...2 years old. He was sold as a display fish for $2k
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Majority of king kamfa are not fertile. This picture is off Australia's first imported king kamfa...the owner acquired him luckily when he was very young. Disapointed to say...he is not at all fertile...2 years old. He was sold as a display fish for $2k
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But still being a more designed fish and being infertile it has still reached to years old and I'm sure by looking at it, we can all see it's healthy
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That makes sense though I mean like us humans the better we eat the better our health is. The flowerhorn specific foods are definitely Not healthy. I'll look into some nls or hikari once I finish my grand sumo.
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This same topic came up a few years ago, from that discussion below are my thoughts on the subject.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?388999-What-is-lifespan-of-flowerhorn
Unfortunately many FH are genetic weaklings, no different than other popular designer strains of fish, such as discus. There is hybrid vigor, and then there is just plain sloppy breeding where recessive genes start piling up causing genetically weak specimens.
Add to that people that insist on power feeding to the enth degree, and excessively high tank temps, to the point where this too can also lead to, or add to, premature death.
If you can get a genetically strong fish, one where the breeder didn't ignore health issues for certain physical traits, you should be able to get 8-10 years, or longer out of your fish.
Anything that creates stress on a fish will shorten its lifespan, including excessive breeding, or breeding before the fish is mature enough. Not just sexually mature, but physically mature in size & age. It's not a theory, it's a fact, especially with females that exert a great deal of their energy & resources producing eggs.
Also, modern flowerhorns can be just as long lived as some of the older strains, it depends entirely on the breeder. If overall health & vigor is of no concern, and the breeder only focuses on the physical attributes of his breeders, then genetically weak fish will generally be the end result.
This is exactly what happens with most of today's designer fish strains, not just flowerhorns. Very few breeders will spend a decade or more perfecting a line, or make health & vigor a priority, they simply pump out what looks & sells the best.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?388999-What-is-lifespan-of-flowerhorn
Unfortunately many FH are genetic weaklings, no different than other popular designer strains of fish, such as discus. There is hybrid vigor, and then there is just plain sloppy breeding where recessive genes start piling up causing genetically weak specimens.
Add to that people that insist on power feeding to the enth degree, and excessively high tank temps, to the point where this too can also lead to, or add to, premature death.
If you can get a genetically strong fish, one where the breeder didn't ignore health issues for certain physical traits, you should be able to get 8-10 years, or longer out of your fish.
Anything that creates stress on a fish will shorten its lifespan, including excessive breeding, or breeding before the fish is mature enough. Not just sexually mature, but physically mature in size & age. It's not a theory, it's a fact, especially with females that exert a great deal of their energy & resources producing eggs.
Also, modern flowerhorns can be just as long lived as some of the older strains, it depends entirely on the breeder. If overall health & vigor is of no concern, and the breeder only focuses on the physical attributes of his breeders, then genetically weak fish will generally be the end result.
This is exactly what happens with most of today's designer fish strains, not just flowerhorns. Very few breeders will spend a decade or more perfecting a line, or make health & vigor a priority, they simply pump out what looks & sells the best.
I have a question for you: How come blood parrots (assuming they come from linebreeding) live longer?